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[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

IMO the prequel and sequels are about equal in badness. The odd thing was they're bad in almost exactly opposite ways.

The prequels had a story to tell, but they broke down in the minutia. There was a solid core plot, but once we got to how things played out scene by scene the movies broke down. George knew how he wanted the story go, but he seemed to have no idea how to get from plot point a to plot point b.

The sequels were nearly directionless in story, but ever scene in their rudderless plot had good dialog, pacing and tone. It's like a jigsaw puzzle that has a picture of static printed on it. Episode 7 was just a re-hash of 3, 8 had two weak plots glued together pushed forward by contrived urgency and episode 9 was just a mix of one-upsmanship threat level as well as trying to ret-con the previous two movies into a coherent story arc.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

ever scene in their rudderless plot had good dialog, pacing and tone

"They fly now?"

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Somehow, Palpatine returned."

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Ex-Trooper who knows troopers are being brainwashed to serve an evil regime shouting "Woooooo" as he slaughters them.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Finn's backstory and Finn's on-screen behaviour have absolutely nothing in common.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Wasn't 7 more of a rehash of 4?

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I meant 4.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Prequels and Sequels are about equal in badness the same way the "left and the right" are about equal in badness.

Despite it's issues, the Prequels has iconic stuff, good world building. The sequels are a fucking mess with no redemptive quality.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Prequel worldbuilding good? Lol

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The prequels were trash. The only good thing they did was pave the way for more competent writers to expand on the new material, like with the Clone Wars show.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

If you like 'em, you do you, but prequels ruined more Star Wars lore than anything in the sequels

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Midichlorians is just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, it ruins the Force/the Jedi, turning them from a religion to basically just X-Men, but that's peanuts compared to changing Jedi from being an esoteric order of warrior monks (remember, Han Solo says he's been all over the galaxy and *never* heard of the Force) to actually being the galaxy's space cops just 20 years ago. That means Han was alive when the Jedi were still venerated. Little slave Ani on Tatooine knew more about the Jedi than Luke did when he was on the cusp of joining the Rebellion; the prequels straight up do not fit in the same universe as the original trilogy without crazy mental gymnastics. Darth Vader was literally mocked to his face for being a religious fruitcake in episode 4, that's how much presence the Force originally had.

[-] KDE 1 points 11 months ago
[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I just watch Star Wars for the artistic creativity: words, species, spaceships, clothes, choregraphies, FX, sound design, music ... I except nothing from scenario and acting, because I expect it to be shit.

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