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[-] GucciMane@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago
[-] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

I believe he’s saying that, while social democracy in the global south doesn’t directly serve to cut imperialist ties, the policies implemented by social democrats will do some of that cutting in practice.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago
[-] GucciMane@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

By Juche-style degrowth, do you mean a command economy? Socialism?

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

That's more the method than the end goal. Juche is about economic independence. Decoupling yourself from below-cost-of-production imports and waste-exports that an imperial state uses to enrich the core at the expense of the periphery. Command economies and socialist dictatorship of the proletariat can get you there. And one might even argue they're the only economic model that can get you there. But they still need to be pointed in that direction.

A communist economy in South American Country X that harvests lumber from the Amazon in Neighboring Country Y and fills in denuded landscape with landfills of waste generated by the consumption of the lumber isn't self-sufficient, even if its leaders are democratically decided and its capital democratically owned and operated.

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