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One day it's an article saying young voters are abandonning Biden, next day it's one saying they overwhelmingly support him.
In what universe is 53% (against a fascist malignant narcissist manchild, no less!) overwhelming support?
Certainly not this one.
The one where it's 53% for Biden vs 24% for Trump
Fair. Should have read more thoroughly lol.
Because it's not 53vs47, but 53vs24.
Biden has double the support with youth Trump has.
But one has to wonder where the other % are, not speaking their mind because they have someone with them that requires them to support the other guy or just don't want to go on the record with anything regardless. (and this goes both ways, teens not dare to say they would vote Bidden because the people with them are MAGAts or people that would vote Trump, but are scared to say out loud because they know full well their peers don't agree).
Yup. This is the circus part of the bread and circuses.
No one on the planet is overwhelming supporting him. The only question if if Trump is scarier. There is no sane reason why DNC won't put forward a better candidate. Why would Biden cling to power and senility instead of bowing out for health reasons. It's Ruth Bader all over again.
There are extremely good reasons for the DNC to go with Biden: he has already beaten Trump once, and incumbents tend to do well
I understand that he won the popular vote "handily," but he only barely scraped by electorally. We were talking a handful of thousands of votes in key states.
Barely. With the awfulness that was Trump’s presidency still happening. The voters have ridiculously short memories and Biden's main campaign strategy of running as "not the other guy" isn't anywhere near as effective for an incumbent as for a challenger.
By insisting on Biden, the DNC is dramatically increasing the risk of losing the election and thereby making it the last one.
Most incumbents don’t consistently back the genocidal actions of Israel.
Little bit different
Pretty much all presidents have unconditionally supported Israel, actually.
Including, of course, Biden's predecessor and electoral opponent. Who apparently wants to bar Gazan refugees from entry and conduct ideological screening of immigrants to make sure they're pro-Israel
Maybe it is time to change that.
Straight talk, the war is coming, and I would rather be the one to fight in it rather than my children.
Let’s just get it done and over with, cut off the festering limb, and start healing.
Trump backs Israel too. It's either going to be Biden or Trump. So if that's your criterion, you've already lost.
It doesn’t have to be!
Instead of fighting against those of us who want a different president, why not support us.
You have given up already, so how are you going to judge me if I give up next year?
The primaries are still an option.
Who exactly do you think has a chance at winning the primaries and becoming the nominee assuming Trump is allowed on the ballot? Because as far as I can see, it's Biden or Trump.
Anyone who wanted to compete in the primaries is way too late. But feel free to give me the name of the person you think has a chance and explain why.
I will gladly take literally any bet you like that, barring actual death, Joe Biden will be the DNC nominee. Find an escrow and name whatever bet you like.
Oh I agree, everyone is too scared too run anyone else because “trump”.
God forbid that everyone who is telling me he’s not that bad, and think about trump.
Fuck that, if we run Biden and end up with trump it is purely what we deserve.
Welp, when my daughter is pressed into service as a brood mare for the Theocratic American State after we lost our right to vote in the 2028 election, I’ll be sure to salute you for your heroic refusal to support genocide in Gaza (which was nuked in ‘26 btw)
You could join me in fighting against it
All of them do and have since Israel was established. One party just does it harder than the other while in power.
So maybe it’s time we change it
As opposed to his predecessor who literally did a shitton of the work for them and on their behalf?
Do White Leftists just not remember Jerusalem is also their fault for letting Trump Happen or is it just Roe they think they gotta deny deflect and project on?
Arrogant centrists put forth a candidate who was so inept that she promoted the candidate that beat her and then didn't campaign in swing states. Don't blame leftists for the mistake you nominated.
Biden is insanely healthy compared to RBG and her multiple cancers lmao what the fuck
Biden is also far more coherent than Trump and he has a fucking stutter to contend with.