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What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by doctorcrimson@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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[+] Mango@lemmy.world -13 points 11 months ago

That stuff you and your buddies wrote together to justify your income isn't really evidence. Maybe you even believe it is. Everything you ever thought you know is just stuff others told you and you believed it based on their presentation.

[-] godzillabacter@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

No, in fact I believe very heavily in evaluating primary literature to re-evaluate decades-old dogma within medicine. I regularly disagree with my professors when they present outdated information in lecture. I have no income right now, and I have forgone substantial amounts of income by pursuing medical school instead of continuing to practice pharmacy. I'm not in this for the money.

If you would be so kind, I would love to know what evidence you present in contrary to the decades of peer-reviewed cohort, case-control, and RCT data which validate psychiatry as an effective field for managing psychiatric illness. I'd be happy to discuss any scientific data you have that I haven't seen, and would be happy to change my opinion if it is data-driven.

I can appreciate your skepticism towards medicine and psychiatry, but if you can't defend your position with anything but accusations and conspiracy, then I don't think we have much else to discuss.

[+] Mango@lemmy.world -10 points 11 months ago

Funny how you bring up conspiracy given how psychiatry is widely used as a tool to discredit. You all keep control of public image by posing yourselves as authority and your opposition as mentally ill. You're literally doing it right now.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

I'm trying to understand the underlying presuppositions which lead you to this opinion.

Are you convinced psychiatric medicine:

is not effective?
is over-prescibed?
is a worse treatment than therapy?
is harmful?

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Ever been forced to take a drug that made you unable to finish reading a sentence because the local government didn't like how you're rude to a teacher?

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nope, but that sounds like psychiatric malfeasance.

I'm sure nobody denies there are bad psychiatrists, but what you're saying sounds more like an argument for better practice's in psychiatry (which happen constantly), as opposed to the claim you had initially, which was about psychiatrists over diagnosing people with a mental illness.

On a related note: The frequency of ADHD diagnoses has risen drastically over the last few decades.

Someone may interpret this to mean psychiatrists are over diagnosing.

Another interpretation is more people are becoming ADHD.

But the medical consensus is that the public understanding of what ADHD is has improved. It is no longer understood as "little boys with too much energy", and so, more people seek help.

It's shameful that misdiagnoses happen, and I'm sorry that happened to you.

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I have a feeling you’re in dire need of their expertise.

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