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Why do people not understand that you can agree with one thing someone said or did while disagreeing with the majority of what they stand for? (www.youtube.com)

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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

If a shitbag says the sky is blue, you don't need to say "Hey, the shitbag was right about the sky being blue". You can just say "The sky is blue".

These types of shitbags take advantage of psychological techniques to gain followers. Getting people to agree with them is a sort of a "foot-in-the-door" technique.

The moment you say "I don't agree with everything Jordan Peterson says, but...", he's got his foot in your door in turning you into a supporter.

"But I'm smarter than that," you say. "I'm just an independent thinker who can separate the argument from the individual". Jordan Peterson has a PhD in psychology, and has made his living off of manipulating people. He's better equipped than you. And as you may know, thinking "it won't/can't happen to me" makes you more likely to become a victim.

Other phrases these guys love to hear people say are things like...

"I don't agree with him, but I like to listen to arguments from people that I disagree with."

"I know he's making shit up, but he's just funny. I listen just to laugh at him."

"He's absolutely wrong, but he makes people so angry. I listen to see what people are raging about."

These are all foot-in-the-door scenarios. And that's how they make their eventual "sale".

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