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submitted 11 months ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he knows the same young voters who propelled him to office are frustrated, but that he will double down on the work he's been doing.

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[-] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 89 points 11 months ago

Time to pull out that electoral reform idea you've had in your back pocket for the last 8 years.

Seriously, if there was ever a time for something like that, it's now. The CPC seems poised to take a landslide victory in the next election. We might be able to avoid that looming disaster by making a vote against Trudeau not equate to a vote for polievre.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You assume they want electoral reform at all

They don't.

They'd rather lose now and keep the system that would net them another majority of seats (without a majority of votes) in the future, then implement a system that would see them never realize another majority ever again.

The Liberals would rather lose every seat in Parliament and be reduced to zero than implement real electoral reform.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Would be a great time - especially knowing there's a slim chance that he'll win the next election. Instead of handing out country over to an insane christian bag of hot air, implement a voting system that might pass the vote over to somebody else.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Electoral reform was an election promise and nothing more.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

There really should be a way to hold politicians more accountable for promises they have no intention of keeping.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

We are expected to believe the accountability comes at the next (first past the post) election lol

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Nobody is 'poised' to do anything. The next election doesn't need to happen until the back end of 2025. Thats more than enough time for the Liberals to do what they do best and convince everyone that, bad as they are, they're the only safe choice.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I hate this country's politics. Voting our leaders should not be about the least bad option.

[-] sik0fewl@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

You're not gonna lie any other country's politics then, either.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Some countries actually have politcal debates about the positives a leader will bring rather than the negatives the oposition will. Some countries have even had leaders step down when their policies left their politicians or citezens too divided.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

True. Things have gotten worse, though. I remember being fairly shocked by the first Harper campaign, the depths they went to amplify anger towards the Liberal party. To be fair, the Liberals had it coming and needed to be replaced, but they needed to be replaced by the Tories, not the Reform party (which is what the Conservative party was and is)

[-] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not convinced it's a landslide. I don't think PP is winning the female vote. He's not winning the Toronto vote either, so this is already starting to get pretty murky. You can't lose both and have a bonafide path to majority. So who is going to prop them up, the NDP?

[-] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

That's a reasonable take, and I hope with all my heart it turns out that way. At the same time, I think it would be a mistake to underestimate the effectiveness of the "axe the tax" rhetoric. People are willing to overlook a lot of dubious political behaviour if they think it will make a them a couple of bucks.

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