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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Who knows. All these secular nations are the most moral until they do evil stuff then it's religion's fault.

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

America is not a secular nation lmao. The entire language of the Bush administration during the Iraq war was one of a 'holy war' -- they wanted it to be a new crusade.

The one positive aim he had in the Middle East, driven by religion, was achieving a state for Palestine and security for Israel, so he's at least 0 for 2

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

America just wanted a base in the middle east to extort and terrorize other countries with and steal their oil. Bush was as religious as Donald Trump.

Hypocrites abusing religion as a pretense for their misdeeds are described in pretty much every religious book.

Now defend the CCP and China. Are they religious too?

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 10 months ago

I'm not arguing that secular people (or, indeed, nations) can't be evil. While you bring up China, though, it's a bit of a myth that they're not religious; approximately 80% of the Chinese population practise cults of gods and ancestors or belong to folk religious movements.

My point was that it's a bit odd to pick the US as your example of a secular country when it is at the moment de facto Christian.

With regards to Bush being 'as religious as Trump', that's just simply not true. He's a pretty devout Christian, and has put it in a prominent position in all his campaign rhetoric, more than any other president of this generation. If you just Google George W Bush religion you'll find plenty of news articles from a variety of sources saying that (e.g. this or this).

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

"God chose him" huh.

Titus 1:16

They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

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