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submitted 11 months ago by simple@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Aside from being based on Fedora 39 now, KDE is now the official desktop environment replacing GNOME. The reasons why are in the article.

The GNOME version of Nobara still exists, but it's going to be the vanilla version shipped without any extensions (probably because many of them broke after moving to Fedora 39)

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[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Dang. Guess I’ll be switching to Ublue Bazzite.

Which of the many bullet points in the changelog is the reason for that?

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub -3 points 11 months ago

I don't like KDE and if Gnome is not going to be the main DE anymore I might just move to another distro. NBD.

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Gnome isn't the main DE of bazzite either though

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Oh, just let him have his hissy fit.

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 0 points 11 months ago

TIL not liking something is a hissy fit. Thank you for this educational comment.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

TIL not liking something is a hissy fit.

While I don't know the term hissy fit, switching distributions just because the default of a user-changeable setting is different is definitively a bit over the top.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They still have a gnome ISO, but you're going to throw it out because it isnt the "official" version. That sounds like a hissy fit.

The non-official KDE previous version was fine, since the point of the distro is the backend optimizations for gaming and editing. Its not what DE leads point since you can add whatever Fedora has in the repos, which is pretty much everything.

[-] quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Speaking on Bazzite, KDE is our default to match SteamOS, but we put more effort into the GNOME release if anything due to us trying to maintain feature parity with Valve's KDE, including being able to right click and add to steam, use the desktop nested, enable VRR, add custom themes based on the ones Valve shipped, and add the steam deck wallpapers ported to GNOME.

That being said, GE's points about GNOME are very real, and they have a lot of catching to do in regards to gaming. KDE has DRM Leasing, VRR and HDR right now.

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub -1 points 11 months ago

I see that now. It's cool I'll just dual boot Nobara KDE and Fedora Silverblue or something.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Gnome is still there, just not by default and Bazzite defaults to KDE Plasma as well.

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

I just saw that. I'll keep looking.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I’ll keep looking.

But why? Not being the default doesn't mean that Gnome isn't available. As both are Fedora derivatives, both should have good Gnome support inherited from Fedora anyway. As the changelog says, only a handful of Gnome Shell extensions will no longer be provided in the Nobara repository but instaling them manually from extensions.gnome.org is a breeze.

[-] Rogers@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

What are your main dislikes of kde?

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 5 points 11 months ago

I've always experienced weird annoying bugs, and I much prefer the UX and minimalism of gnome. It's better for productivity. I don't just use my desktop for gaming.

[-] 8Bitz0@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

This is my complaint as well. KDE certainly has advantages and neat design ideas, but I always come across some major bugs that make my device unusable.

Definitely not saying GNOME doesn’t have bugs as well though.

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago

Everything has bugs of course but I personally don't notice as many in Gnome and I just like the overall UX and workflow better.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well, Nobara is a gaming-oriented distribution and as the changelog outlines, does Plasma currently offer technological benefits. As is the case with everything, this isn't set in stone and might change at some point but right now the main target audience for paid development work for Gnome are corporate users where for Plasma it's being Desktop Mode for Steam Deck.

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