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[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Why shouldn't former DDR countries sign a defensive pact? Why would Russia not want them to do that?

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Since that ‘defensive pact’ was specifically created to serve as America’s spearhead against the USSR

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

Spearhead against what? The USSR attacking other countries?

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Name one Western European country the Soviets attacked without provocation

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Why specifically western? Because Russia attacked like the whole eastern Europe without provocation?

[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

former DDR countries

when you definitely know what you're talking about

this is the former DDR country, singular

Why would Russia not want them to do that?

Because NATO agreed not to? Because they expect agreements to be upheld?

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip -1 points 11 months ago

You're right I have no idea what DDR means in the context of countries or geopolitics.

As for the claim that NATO wouldn't expand past the DDR, all I could find were sources that say it was an oral agreement between the US and the USSR. I don't see why the USSR (now Russia) should get to decide what unions eastern European countries decide to join, especially since after the collapse of the Warsaw pact said countries were no longer part of a defensive pact.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/28/candace-owens/fact-checking-claims-nato-us-broke-agreement-again/

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/07/1078929982/a-look-at-the-debate-over-nato-expansion-eastward-thats-at-the-heart-of-conflict

https://www.france24.com/en/russia/20220130-did-nato-betray-russia-by-expanding-to-the-east

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