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Trump blocked from Maine presidential ballot in 2024
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They did that via completely legal and by the books means, thanks to the incompetence of democrats.
How was it "stolen" exactly? Yes the EC is bullshit but it is the law of the land, again it was an evil move but totally above board legally.
Yes, but I think more emphasis should be put on shittily here. I think it wasn't very well coordinated, it was probably half spontaneous, with some of the stupider Republicans going along once the ball had started rolling. Still an insurrection attempt but it's hard to stick concrete charges on them because of how half-assedly they did it.
Again, these are all still things they are within their legal right to due within the framework of US law.\
Actual illegal shit, like attempting succession, deploying the National Guard to polling centers to obstruct people from voting for Biden, arresting DNC politicians at the state level, barring Biden and his staff from traveling within their borders.
The stolen election is referring to the 2000 election.
Well that one's more debatable, but still, most of the evil shit the GOP has done was either totally legal or existed in a legal gray zone. There are some lines they have yet to cross.
If they were going to start a civil war over the democrats engaging in any kind of chicanery, then the civil war is inevitable. This objection is pointless.
Perhaps it is inevitable, I'm just arguing this could be a triggering event
None of it was "by the books". It was flagrant and obvious abuse of the system and circumvention of the law, and in case of the 2000 stolen election, an outright stolen government. They're already breaking the laws and the rules when it suits them, they openly celebrates murderers, insurrectionists and terrorists when they're on their side. If the democrats answering back at all will result in them picking up guns, then they were always going to do that. But they're not going to fucking do that. My god man, they're the comfortable ones, they sit on massive disproportionate institutional power and none of the movers and shakers of the republican party has any interest in a violent conflict.
No offense but this sounds like a bit of a lib take. I agree the current GOP is fucking evil but this makes them sound like a new and unique evil, which they really aren't. None of this is new, and none of it is anything "beneath" the DNC.
I think they've always been willing to do it, whether or not they actually do depends.
I agree outright civil war is very unlikely, but I see other routes, particularly a "soft balkanization", as in states increasingly giving less and less of a shit about Washington. Heck I'd say we're already on that path. Thing is that's a two way street, if Biden wins I suspect the Red states to start ignoring DC and if Trump wins the Blues will likely do the same. Maybe it's inevitable but I think what Colorado and Maine are trying to do may be accelerating the process.
Offense absolutely taken. Calling anyone else a lib after taking the position that nothing can be done because it'll piss off the republicans is absolutely ludicrous. They're literally always mad, there's nothing you can do that won't piss them off. That's the lib excuse for not doing anything ffs. They shut down the government because they claimed it was unfair to hold a vote while they were in the minority ffs, and the libs responded by giving them concessions and your rhetoric is that this was actually reasonable.
1, didn't call you a Lib, said your take was lib.
2, I at no point said nothing can be done, I just don't believe THIS particular action will not achieve any good and could just embolden Republicans.
Everything makes the republicans mad. As I added in just before you posted.
This isn't going to do anything either way, but the libs growing a spine isn't something to handwring about.