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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

I'm called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great

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[-] zogwarg@awful.systems 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No empire was ever born before 600 BCE (no no, the egyptians don't count), and no clear works of fiction, intended mostly to be dessiminated thorugh text ever existed before the 11th Century (You can dismiss anything prior as mere works of philosophy, poetry or mythology)

[-] grumpybozo@toad.social 6 points 11 months ago

@zogwarg Bronze Age Empires:

Hittite
Minoan
Mycenaean (briefly but opportunistically picking up the very wet Minoan pieces after the Thera eruption & tsunami.)
Old Babylonia (i.e. not the Neo-Babylonians who revered that past)

Given their intermittent hegemony over Kush and Canaan, I don’t agree that Egypt doesn’t count as an empire. One can also make such a case for Zhou-era China, particularly before its splintering into the “Warring States” interregnum.

[-] zogwarg@awful.systems 4 points 11 months ago

To name only but a few.

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