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Discord?
My phone number is banned from both. Pedophiles and Nazis, however, are welcome!
It somehow manages to be worse than Telegram
Yeah. It's a real shame people here use it, considering how a fair number of us have our Matrix linked to our Hexbear account.
Does Hexbear have a matrix chat server?
yes but it's mainly for mods/devs. I don't think it gets used as a general purpose chat server. I think anyone can request an account but one of the admind has to add you to the channels relevant to you.
There is a public one it's called The Cool Zone
huh was not aware
Not as far as I can tell, maybe make your question a post? Then maybe we could get the ball rolling on making one. The Hexbear mod chat is on Matrix, though.
Matrix also lets you actually search all the rooms. Discord's whole explore feature was repulsive and I avoided eye contact with it the entire time. Almost everything requires a random invite from a dev's twitter or github
Yeah, Discord doesn't seem like it's properly made for anything besides friends, just on the invite features alone.
I did not know we can do that. Nice.
I agree especially since I only want to use Discord for like issue reporting for software and mods and shit
the issue i remember keep coming up is that there still isn't an actually good matrix client that approximates discord's layout. the basic logic of a community being on a "server" with multiple channels people freely swap between , with maybe some voice channels that are compeltely disconnected from the text channels, still isn't actually implemented because matrix still operates on IRC logic where every single channel is supposed to be a community unto itself. element's spaces feature is a very poor substitute, and withotu that basic killer feature i don't see any mass migration happening anytime soon.
Disagree. Its a very convenient platform to me and most of my friends are on there.
"most of my friends are on there" doesn't make a platform good, and doesn't mean we shouldn't discourage people from using it. But, aside from that, it's probably a bad idea to have an account that is connected to real life friends also connected to internet communism.
Makes it good for me and my life. I dont organize on there and dont think people should. And neither are people arguing about olive oil on a gaming discord, whether it happens to be connected to Hexbear or not.
Also these arent real life friends i dont have those anymore.
Security heads are like the lamest people alive. The gestapo are not going to come for you for shitposting on Hexbear or discord. If they come for you, itll be because you did something that actually threatens power. If you think Hexbear does that, youre a self-important maroon. Hexbear doesnt do organizing. We barely do education.
Also, discord and hexbear accounts arent linked in any way.
Discord is the reason Im a real anti imperialist. More than hexbear is i learned shit on Redpixel lol. And i formed a social support network on there that has kept me from offing myself. I dont have irl friends anymore like i said. My discord friends keep me alive after my one remaining irl friend dumped me over a stupid misunderstanding (which admitedly happened on discord, but thats how we kept in touch during the pandemic).
Its just a comminication platform. And the server system is very useful. Only thing i dont like about it is that helpful information is stored on privatre servers and not searchable online. Death of forums ect ect.
My main opposition to Discord isn't really security, but rather that it's proprietary. I'm a bit extreme when it comes to that, the computer I'm writing this from is literally running linux-libre.
The OpSec part doesn't hurt either, but it's mainly just a way to convince other people to stop using proprietary platforms.
I mean thats fair i guess i just dont think its really all that useful to try to get people to leave proprietary platforms personally. Sorry for assuming.
Strange thing to say considering this free website had to be founded after the users were hounded off a proprietary platform for endorsing the killing of slaveowners.
I can say that freely on discord.
It's against Discord community guidelines[1], but their enforcement is terrible. If someone ever bothered to report you for saying that, there's a fair chance you could get banned.
[1] https://discord.com/guidelines says, pretty specifically, "Do not threaten to harm another individual or group of people" and "Do not organize, promote, or support violent extremism. This also includes glorifying violent events or the perpetrators of violent acts". Endorsing killing slaveowners falls under both of those. Here on Hexbear the CoC is worded so doing so is not a violation.
Yeah that doesnt seem to be enforced at all. Fash infiltrators have tried to report Redpixel for things before and noones been banned let alone the whole server.