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[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

And your alternative for this next election cycle is what exactly? Be crystal clear. What is the realistic outcome of not supporting Biden over any Republican? How would Trump or Nikki Hailey as president be better for the left than Biden?

Feelings about the past are important, but strategies for the future matter more. Biden has done shitty things, but the best Republican would be orders of magnitude worse. We can't expect bad people to get what they deserve because it usually isn't possible. The only achievable justice is the mitigation of future injustice. Cosmic punishment can only be delivered by a god, and attempts to enforce it will often lead us astray.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bro you can critique the people you vote for.

I don't know why people always assume correctly critiquing democrats for being failures to the left and to workers means they think we would vote for an actual fascist.

No we want better options period.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Leftist equivocation is more than a simple "critique." It distorts reality to paint a hopeless picture that encourages apathy and people who unironically choose to not vote for the lesser evil. It brings this both sides bullshit into the realm of acceptable conversation when it really shouldn't be.

It's like when Nazis talk about Soros controlling the world and promoting "globalism." There are valid criticisms that must be made about billionaires like Soros and their promotion of global capitalism, but that isn't what Nazis mean when they fear monger about them. They single out Soros because he's Jewish, say he controls the world because of cabal conspiracy theories, and don't give a fuck about fixing capitalist exploitation. You don't let the Nazi stay once they become identifiable; you kick them out and avoid feeding their arguments.

Just like how many conservatives that complain about Soros are unaware of the Nazi dogwhistles, many Leftists who equivocate the parties don't recognize the accelerationist underpinnings. Your critique of Biden isn't the problem. Unintentionally feeding apathy and accelerationism is where you fuck up. Bring up those critiques in a post that doesn't promote apathy. A generic "Democrats suck" post would be better than this meme.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

So I'm still going to vote for a Democrat, which is all you wanted from me 15 hours ago.

But now I'm getting a screeching screed about how that's not enough.

Fucking fuck off man.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry. I wasn't explicit or careful enough in my wording. To clarify, you aren't the one equivocating, the op of this meme is. The only mistake you made is supporting his argument unintentionally. You're right about Biden, but context matters.

The internet sucks, and people automatically interpret a critique of a critique as defense of the original point. I do it to others even though I get caught up in the same trap all the time. I feel your pain.

[-] Soulg@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Beautifully put.

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