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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Bondrewd@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I have been looking at Fairphone and Volla, and it feels like the Smartphone scene for Linux is going very strong right now.

Think of it like this: We got 3-4 end-user ready Ubports smartphones, ~~made by IN Europe~~(Volla/Gigaset is), with recent hardware, swappable battery, very good service and repairability in various formats. You can even purchase Gigaset phones (commercial equivalents of Volla) in stores/Amazon for a very good price.

The immediate orbiters of Linux smartphones like Fxtec, Planet Computers and Jolla are also based here.

I think we reached the year of the Linux phones. Atleast it is not the niche it was in 2020. I wonder how usable ubports is. If you got any experience with these phpnes on ubports, feel free to share.

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[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

Are these true Linux phones? Or are we talking Android loader/drivers then launching a Linux session? So far the only two devices i know to be true Linux phones are the Pinephone and the Librem.

[-] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Jolla is the successor to Nokia's Maemo/Meego OS which was proper Linux. Jolla does have seamless Android emulation. They don't do their own phones anymore, though.

[-] Ew0@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago

This, if there's a successor (an actual working one), it's probably SailfishOS. Runs pretty well on my Xperia 10 III and the UI is super nice :)

[-] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Replying from my Xperia 10 IV.

It's purchase was a mistake.

I'm stuck on Android :(

[-] Ew0@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Can you not sell it and grab a III? They are pretty cheap used/refurb now - I got 2 in good condition for £200 each.

[-] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Agreed, halium and Ubuntu Touch aren't true Linux phones in my book. To be a true Linux phone you need to run mainline, or at least very close to it (pmOS forks, Megi kernel, etc) and do things the Linux way not the Android way (KMS/DRM/Mesa stack, ALSA/Pulse/Pipewire stack). There are some phones that are getting there thanks to postmarketOS like the OnePlus 6/6T but the ones you listed are the main true Linux phones.

Typing this from my PinePhone Pro running postmarketOS.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

How's that working these days? From time to time I dust off mine, try it a bit, and see that while there's progress, it's way too unstable for a daily driver. PPP even more so than old PP. I'm using a Pixel 7 running Graphene these days...

[-] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Volla has two official images, one is ubuntu mobile

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah but is it a low level android or is it a full Linux boot? As mentioned, the only two phones I know of that boot full Linux from scratch with Linux drivers are the Pinephone (and the Pinephone Pro) and the Librem 5. Both with their own set of issues.

[-] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is 100% Linux with 0% Android. I had a Volla Phone X for a few weeks.

Edit: It uses vendor blobs to communicate with the hardware. Besides that, it used some lineageOS code in Halium, which is a layer between ubuntu touch and the vendor blobs.

[-] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Indeed they need Halium for it. On the other hand compare them to the nexuses and oneplus ones you had to put up with a few years ago.

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