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77 Groups Worldwide Back Genocide Lawsuit Against Biden in U.S. Court
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Sorry, I don't understand. Do you think Biden should be the only choice for the democratic nomination for this election?
On 538 I can see he has the lowest popularity at this time than any other president we have data on. I would think more Americans would vote for a different democratic candidate than they would for Biden, even though he is the incumbent. That's why I think other choices during the primary would be better for support of the democratic party in the national election. I'm just trying to understand your point of view if you think otherwise
What is happening in Isreal/Gaza has been an ongoing event. What people forget is 2 years ago 2021 favorability to Palestinians over Isreal was up to 30% a 7% rise in a year. (In the U.S.) So from Truman till October/ November of 2023 there had never been a sitting president who represented a populous that was pro Palestinians over Israel. (Strange way to word that). Tides are changing and things are happening fast. 2024 will show us a lot.
Not sure if this source is any good, but a view from 2021 US Israel/Palestinians
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That said, the best thing that could have happened for this country is arresting and sentencing Trump to life in prison in the immediate months following Jan 6. Then it would have given 3 years to die down, and Biden would never have ran for president. There is no candidate that showed an inkling of wanting to run that could beat out Biden and Trump (or Biden would have likely supported them or even offered to have him or Harris stay as their VP to ensure they secured the election)
Biden is the only choice as he is the Incumbent. Any other consideration is a direct path to losing. That is the simple reality. That is exactly what happened in 2016. People stayed home after their candidate did not get the nod. Demanding, promoting, or in fact whining about not having any other choices is naive and self defeating.
Our system in place creates a binary. There is no third option that is viable. You don't have to like choosing between a giant douche and a shit sandwich, but at least the douche is trying to clean something.
That's an understandable argument considering the historical incumbent advantage. However, I think this election is unlike other incumbents and there is reason to believe the incumbent advantage doesn't apply for Biden this election cycle.
I don't understand your point about the 2016 election, none of the articles I read about how Hilary lost the Electoral College vote despite winning the popular vote mentioned her having opposition in the primaries as one of the reasons.
I'm not saying vote third party, that's a red herring in a FPTP voting system. (It should be a kind of ranked voting system like approval or STV, hopefully if enough states switch, the national one can too.)
The Voter turn out was depressed across the States in play. That is not remotely in question.
You must get ranked choice in place before not pretend it'll get put in place.
Yes, it's very true that 2016 has historical low voter output. But I don't see how you're attributing that to her opposition in the primaries. All the analysis I've read over and data I've seen suggests that it was her as a candidate and what the DNC decided to focus on. Her policies not improving the material conditions of the voter base and the democratic party not focusing on key demographics.
It was very ugly and suppressed turn out because the folks that bought into the propaganda stayed home "to teach the Dem.s a lesson". Of course the actual lesson was lost a many folks that are again buying into the propaganda.
Do you have any sources to suggest that? Without evidence I find it hard to believe that claim
Then you were not there and didn't pay attention.
Ben Ghazi and his Buttery Males review were pounded by the Republicans and the infighting over the primary season gave backing to it as that was the primary argument made against her and Democratic Party saw poor turn out as folks were apathetic, since they bought into the claims as a result of the infighting getting used by Corpo media to cudgel Clinton as corrupt and they all thought otherwise there was no horse race. The infighting was the singular reason it wasn't ignored by the apathetic no shows. Social media was full of "teach the Dems a lesson", much as it is today.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
https://news.yale.edu/2021/04/21/swing-vote-trumped-turnout-2016-election
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-democrats-real-turnout-problem.html
The third article does suggest conversion played a larger role than compositional change (attracting more voters).
The other three articles notify a lack of turnout as the main culprit. A lack of turnout will naturally diminish voters from compositional change and highlight voters of conversion. That makes it clear that the driving factor was Hilary and the DNC's campaign strategy not attracting enough voters. Which brings me back to the reasons I stated above. None of these blame the primaries or 'infighting' as the reason. It seems you really want to blame Hilary's opposition like Bernie for her loss instead of Hilary and the DNC.
The situation was more complex that some people on the Internet switching votes to own the libs
estimate AKA guess.
oops, “Several million voters didn’t come out to vote,” Becker said. “Which is telling me that this idea of the Trump wave, a huge number of voters shifting over to Trump, is certainly not the story.” seems you skipped some stuff just like you ignored what was being reported and posted in 2016.
Sadly, as you are blatantly in bad faith, Yeah sure dude, whatever.
I don't back nor refute claims without sources. Not sure what you think bad faith is, I haven't moved any goalposts or deflected. I don't appreciate your attitude, good day.