Welp, here come the meat-based plants. (www.wired.com)

submitted 10 months ago by LeanFemurs@lemmy.world to c/vegan@lemmy.world

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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

I mean the appeal is yummy? Like you're welcome to go eat the ancestor of apples or stick to seeded watermelons or whatever. You can even prefer the old thing, find the new flavour bad. Hell it's even acceptable to find the whole thing creepy but to not understand seems a deliberate choice.

People enjoy the taste of meat to the extent they are willing to build demonic factories of agony in order to eat world destroying amounts of it. Many people protest taste as a reason to keep on with this holocaust, and while they may be lying perhaps it would move the needle for them. Many vegans or vegetarians also enjoy foodstuffs that mimic flavours or textures found in flesh.

/shrug seems understandable

[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

I might have been vegan for too long to have that perspective. I never understood the taste side of things with meat, because it was always the spices that made the flavor for me - never the flesh or meat proteins.

IMO, I think the people using taste as a means to justify this holocaust are just trying to cope without thinking too much about the topic. I think they're just buying into propaganda to think that they like (and need) meat. Like, if you give them vegan food that tastes good they like it, but then when they find out it's vegan they no longer like it as it tastes 'weird' and doesn't fit into the meat good narrative.

I don't think I'm deliberating trying to not understand this, and I do appreciate your response. I can see how it might seem I am deliberately being obtuse.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. I've been vegan for 7 years now, and was pesco (facepalm, so close to getting the point) for about 8 prior. I defs get skeezed out a bit when something tastes a bit too realistic but that's in large part remembering past complicity and the ongoing horror.

If the world was different I'd feel different. I do also like to play with MSG and shiitake mushroom reductions etc to make very rich tasting food sometimes, and would enjoy the opportunity to eat stuff that tasted crustaceanesque as I've never been able to reproduce something like it.

I do agree that some of it is likely rationalisation, but also with ethical behaviour lowering barriers has a huge impact. For example putting bins closer has a bigger impact on not littering than educational signs about the impact. Idk I think people are just a little bit lazy sometimes and making stuff more familiar might help.

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