Instances in the free fediverses should consider "transitive defederation" from instances that federate with Meta (privacy.thenexus.today)

submitted 10 months ago by thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/7477620

Transitive defederation -- defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads -- isn't likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing -- although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I've also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion -- and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago

Meta disgusts me but i cant lie and say the opportunity that my family may without me pushing much may join the fediverse on threads sounds much nicer then the status quo.

I am all for protecting the fediverse from metas ideas so i do support defediration.

With this transistive tool what happens if i am on my own instance, defederated from meta but i dont the transition and federate with a community that is federated with meta.

Could i see threads from my instance trough the federated one?

Is my own instance safe from meta?

Will transistive defederation mean others will automatically defederate with my instance because i federate with an instance that is federated with threads?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Man just gotta respond to one thing here. I’m not for protecting anyone from any ideas. Better to have an immune system than a sterile environment that requires isolation to maintain.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Lack of isolation online played a big part in my deconverting from Christianity.

These goobers on Mastodon content warning a fucking dog looking at you or, heaven forbid, a plate of food, cracks me up.

How do they function day to day? Grow up.

[-] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

strawman ._.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Where’s the strawman? Those are specific examples I’ve seen.

[-] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

where

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’ll invite you to reread my original comment to answer your question.

[-] sour@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

make claim provide evidence

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Jesus you’re annoying.

Here is a single example from 10 seconds of scrolling.

Now, what are you going to do with that information? What was the point?

Edit: hahaha just search Mastodon for “eye contact”. There’s more than I originally thought.

[-] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

content warning isnt isolation

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ah, so now that I’ve shown I wasn’t full of shit, you need to change tack.

This is something you could have responded with to my original comment.

And it is a form of isolation. Its isolation the poor sensitive souls on Mastodon subject themselves to willingly.

I’m vegan and I’ve run into vegans on mastodon who bitch and moan about CW on posts with animal products and that’s just as ridiculous.

Again, grow the fuck up.

[-] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

content warning doesnt remove post from feed

if am supposed to personally block threads you can block people you think are ridiculous

do you have better thing to get mad about

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’ve already fixed CW on my end by using the setting to show everything by default. They don’t personally bother me.

Those that expect me to CW benign things bother me.

My comment was and continues to be about people who isolate themselves because people post scary pictures of eye contact and plates of food.

[-] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

why is block apply to threads but not people that bother you

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

With “ideas” i am actually referencing any less then respect plans collecting data and monopolizing the fediverse meta may have.

I wouldn’t be supposed if meta wasn’t paying some in house developers to help work on the open source federation improvements only to in same breath ease in compatibility with their own systems.

If we’re not careful we might get properly invaded, meta will set the rules for the fediverse to follow. Independent communities that cant follow the same new protocols gets pushed out and will go extinct.

At least thats what i understood is the reason threads gets defederated, better to break up now that its small then to get consumed as it grows.

But i still hoped there could Be some safe doors and gateways in the middle.

[-] sour@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

does ideas include fascism

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, there's fascist ideas somewhere on Lemmy. And on Mastodon. Ideas can be fascist. Unless you want to get into a very complex philosophical debate I think that's pretty established.