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He's a lawless, fascist murderer.
(slrpnk.net)
after St. Louis police unions instructed officers to publicly display The Punisher's insignia (the mark of a lawless, fascist murderer) the comic book community was quick to point out the stupidity, and the frankly horrifying message sent by supposed peace officers endorsing a maniac. So it's a good thing The Punisher personally confirms he hates cops who see him as a friend… making every cop who "wears his mark" or calls themselves a "fan" look like shameful fool in the process.
-- Andrew Dyce, The Punisher Confirms: He HATES Cops Who Support Him
They like him because they want to LARP as a reckless, vengeance seeking gunslinger who eliminates anyone who they feel has wronged them or who is "wrong". As in so many other circumstances, they've missed the point and the intended message.
The ol' Walter White/Rick Sanchez/Joker/Patrick Batemen "hes literally me fr fr" but for adult men doing an actual job. It'd be cringey if they weren't in a position of authority.
Still pretty cringey tbh. The fact that there's so many people (mostly white men) who run around fantasizing about gunning down people they disagree with is sad, and terrifying. It's a whole subculture of violence obsessed gun nuts with a victim complex and low self esteem.
It is important to remember that even the actual brownshirts were a bunch of fucking dorks.
There was a whole bunch of lenmings salivating when someone shot a youtube prankster for getting in his face, pathetic as fuck
Rick & Morty this season really turned a corner with how they interpret Rick and how truly lonely/shitty his life can be because of his very serious personality flaws. Big fan of what they’re doing. Lots of self reflection on the show, more nuanced debates about rick and morty’s (toxic) relationship somehow despite how often it’s brought up, strong mirrors back on the audience. It’s strong stuff
Might have to give em another shot but i would need a strong episode to convince me after feeling let down by the writing. Do you have a favorite?
Season 7 Episode 4: That's Amorte is incredible.
OK, yes, that was excellent. a multi watch EP for sure
What episode(s) or elements left you feeling let down? Just getting context.
Hmm... I got a feeling that the jokes were trending towards easier/cheap shock type. Hard to explain. Felt a bit of flanderization, like the writers were spinning their wheels. In the best way i can sum up a feeling so nebulous, i think maybe talking about the pickle rick episode is probably the best way i can describe what I'm feeling.
Most of pickle rick was just mouse gore and stuff but i loved the expansion on rick and daughters nasty relationship. Loved his reaction to the Doc. (Perhaps the subtext of the gore was all the hoops rick jumps thru rather than dealing with emotion, but it wasn't a joy to watch) i ... dunno... it doesn't feel natural like it used to? Doesn't seem like they're (the writers) having any fun
One ep i liked, morty's memories or whatever. No notes. Great episode.
Ah, i quit after season 4
I'd say pick it back up on Season 6, skip the knights of the sun episode that was a random regression to some of their worse writing for like the whole first 50% of the episode. Season 5 has some good ones but it's also a bit mixed. Definitely don't watch the dragonheart spoof episode that one is foul - I think it's season 5?
That's Amorte (S7) is a fantastic suggestion (saw that other comment)
If you're into the Rick Prime/Evil Morty plot lines, know that S7E5 is INCREDIBLY consequential. As is the Season 5 finale (which kicks a ton of ass btw).
Im glad to hear they're doing evil morty well. I'll start with your rickomendation (and maybe that's amorte too) and see if i can remember the love i had for the show
I got really unsure around S4/S5 as well. It had some fantastic direction some episodes, and some just really sketchy "I can't possibly recommend this show" episodes. I'm all the more impressed at the direction they've gone in. They took al the best parts of season 5 and built on it IMO. The episode where Rick keeps bouncing around different worlds as he's resurrected/Morty goes full Akira is a GREAT example of where they were headed and are now.
Oh man now you've gone and made me watch them now instead of later. I was supposed to get something done you know?
Happy to be of disservice!
I didn't even know the new season came out already :P
I’m guessing you are kind of joking, but to be clear this came out years ago haha
Most cops in North America barely even passed high school, you think they'd pick up on literary concepts like an anti-hero or even a morally gray character? They see protagonist, they probably automatically assume they're unambiguously the good guy for every story.
Idk I actually feel like they’ve seen exactly what the point is. You just have the occasional writer trying to morally absolve Frank for a few pages and then go right back to murdering with his super cool big guns
Hell let’s leave the comics for a second. Watch the opening of season 2 of the punisher on Netflix and tell me if that looks like any attempt at nuance/reflection on season 1 lol