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Yet the CEO felt the need to try to do some damage limitation. Clearly he doesn't share your confidence about the lack of impact this could have on the company's reputation.
Again, a little PR to brush it aside is all that was. Come back to me next week and show me the impact.
If it was nothing why brush it?
To get ahead of it and control the narrative. They were publicly accused of a wrongful dismissal. That has huge legal connotations, whether she realized that or not. But the corporation has all their legal ducks in a row. She hasn't exposed anything but her own inexperience. Really, if she did have a wrongful dismissal case, she likely overplayed her hand by publishing the video so soon. She'll get employment insurance, but that's all she'll get at this point.
I'm finding this confusing. On the one hand you are adamant this will have no impact for them but then also say this could have huge legal connotations for them. Which is it? It can't be both.
No, it has huge legal connotations for her. If she had a wrongful dismissal case, then she should have brought the video and the documentation to a lawyer instead of blasting it out to the world. Now the legal department that has a team of lawyers working to advise the CEO and making sure she doesn't have a case, whether she actually had one or not. That's why it will be reported as fired without cause. If she was told she was fired with cause but it's reported as without cause and she can still claim employment insurance, then she has no case. If she had kept her mouth shut and let them process the termination, she might have had something combined with the video. Now she has nothing, and this will be forgotten by next week.
Patience is a virtue, especially when you're being fired.
"Now she has nothing" - You shouldn't underestimate the impact of going viral. If she'd kept quiet no one would have ever known about the way Cloudflare behaved. Now she's gone viral globally and her 1 day old LinkedIn post about this situation has (so far) collected 4,260 reactions, 547 comments and 128 reposts. You can bet your bottom dollar that Matthew Prince is not sleeping soundly tonight. It's going to be rather interesting to see what happens next...
Again, come back to me in a week and show me the impact. Prince isn't losing any more sleep on this than the other 39 people that were let go. It's just business to him.
Alright, let's play this game. Firstly a week is nothing so let's make it 3 months and let's begin by being clear about what "no impact" means. It seems to me twofold. On the one hand there's the impact on Cloudflare's share price and then more directly the impact on Brittany Pietsch. If she gets no more job offers than she would have if she'd kept quiet then I guess that would be "no impact" number one. Cloudflare's share price has risen since November last year from 54.95USD to its current price of 79.37USD. If there is no great change in three months then that would be "no impact" number two. Let's see what happens ;)
What happens to Brittany Pietsch at this point is on Brittany Pietsch. It's up to her to show how she can be a valuable employee.
This will have absolutely no effect on the share price. To think that laying off 40 people out of a huge organization, even if one went "viral" for a few days, will have any effect is wishful thinking. Speculating on the possible effects is only an exercise for the people that want to feel outrage over something. People in this thread are talking about having PTSD from episodes like this. It's just a whole lot of complaining that will go nowhere, just like it has for decades. Cloudflare customers will not care about this, and that's all that really matters. And unlike Reddit, Cloudflare hasn't pissed off their products and drove them away to other platforms. The company will be fine...
Ok, let's see.
So it's been a week. Cloudflare isn't in the news anymore. No one on this site is talking about the incident anymore. Brittany Pietsch has done nothing but complain and "hit back" at the comments 4 days ago. And the stock price has gone up.
I don't expect you to acknowledge any of this, but knowing that I was completely 100% right is reward enough.
Yeah... seems like you didn't read the conditions of the test I proposed. See you in 3 months ;)
I saw it just fine. Nothing will change in the next 3 months. I look forward to being completely 100% right yet again.
Ok, let's see.
Looks like something changed so let's review. The conditions were that this would have no impact on Cloudflare or Brittany. Apart from Cloudflare looking like dicks in the most public and embarrassing way imaginable, Brittany's landed a nice new job most likely thanks to all the visibility she generated. I would imagine she was offered a ton of jobs the minute she went viral and is only now officially able to announce the one she picked. Well done her. You mentioned being used to being 100% right so you must know the feeling well. I have to say, I see why you like it so much cos I'm certainly enjoying this ;)
Yet the stock price is still going up. And still no one is talking about it except you. No one cares. Even I forgot about this.
Seriously, just let it go. You were wrong. That's not a bad thing unless you make a big deal about it, like you are right now.
I mean, you asked me to come back to you if something happens that demonstrates "impact" and I did. If you don't care about this why don't you take the high road right now and just not reply...