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"Fascist" isn't really the correct term since they're subscribers to left-wing authoritarianism/state Marxism, whereas fascism is exclusively right-wing. Don't get me wrong -- it's still problematic -- but at least their end goals are ostensibly worthy (whether or not you think they're sincere about actually achieving communism as a stateless, classless society is another matter), while fascism seeks oppression by design.
I've had hexbears be consistently hostile and even outright bigoted (which surprised me), so I block the instance and every hexbear account on sight, but I do at least understand why an instance might not fully defederate from them.
Just because they take a different approach to improving peoples conditions that is more concrete than the paper thin protections offered by capitalist societies gay acceptance doesnt make them outright bigoted. Which is basically a 'we wont put you in an insane asylum or prison anymore but we will use you as moral panic bait forever in our newspapers to turn a profit' approach.
LGBT+ liberation must include improving peoples material conditions, countries actively being genocided or deprived because of western policies deserve our support as victims of our own aggression too; If you actually care about LGBT+ people globally it means stopping our devestation of them, then letting them heal.
I've been to China, I felt much more safe there as a openly bi man with my male partner at the time than I ever do in the UK; our news whips people up into a frenzy and makes people attack each other physically, you dont get the same undercurrent of rage in socialist countries towards LGBT+ people, just a lack of understanding.
Not to mention the way the imperial core constantly stokes up homophobia and transphobia abroad
Lets not even mention how China has entire 200+ million population zones that have been openly tolerant and accepting of trans people culturally, forever (Shanghai) and that China isnt even actively oppressive towards LGBT+ people, just ignorant in some areas.
Nowhere in China are politicans debating actively genociding trans people, they are in Florida. Trans people are also the medias current beating horse in the UK.
A lot less homeless gay and trans children too.
Next to none, as well as a 90% outright ownership rate.
I know trans comrades here in the UK who have been forcibly no-fault evicted 6 times in the last 2 years when the landlords found they where trans out. They suddenly 'decided' to move in, usually leaving them homeless and having to scramble to rent somewhere at half there monthly income while working two insecure jobs and being unable to access health care.
How is this better?
It’s not incorrect to refer to China’s and Russia’s governments as fascist.
The shoe doesn't fit, though. That's not the meaning of the term.
Stalinism operated under the auspices of Marxism, as did Maoism. Like it or not, these are Marxists. The problem is they're authoritarian Marxists, not fascists.
And fascists don't call everyone they disagree with "liberal." I myself reject liberalism, which upholds capitalism and other inequitable hierarchies. Shall we call liberals "fascist" as well, since they too engage in oppression and exploitation of marginalized groups? Certainly not, and nor should we call authoritarian leftists "fascists."
Fascism is a strictly right-wing ideology. Far right, in fact, which is why we typically don't call liberals by the term, even though it too is a less extreme right-wing ideology.