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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Define for the class what you think anarchy means, and, wait one minute, you think ghettos are created by people not recognizing private land ownership?

[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Anarchy in 2 words, no state. It's mostly a thing in history in opposition to something else.

Don't be silly, I know why ghettos are created. My point was more towards the organization of urbanization through land ownership can help.

Now what do you propose we implement instead?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's quite a lot of thought missing from your definition of anarchy, including, ya know, all of the ideas on how to make that work, and the assumption by most that it wouldn't be an immediate process, and for someone that knows how ghettos are created, you sure used it as a criticism of an idea that would make them literally impossible, while doubling down on insisting that the thing creating ghettos can solve the ghettos if you... Do it more, and harder?

I don't actually believe in the dissolution of private property, at least in regards to individual land ownership, up to a certain point. I just take issue with people stating their opinions as facts, especially when they're just flat out wrong.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

all of the ideas on how to make that work

Tbf, that seems like it would depend on the flavor of anarchism.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Which is rather part of the problem, as a lot of modern anarchists don't believe in the dissolution of the state, at least as a deliberate policy, thus the idea that Marxists and anarchists are ultimately working towards the same goal (communism) and disagreeing on the methods to achieve it.

[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago

Yeah i was referring to the dissolution of property rights when referring to anarchy. It was more colloquial than the actual system. Yes I didn't copy the wiki for anarchy because it was irrelevant.

Not sure where you took the opinion as facts thing but okay...

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