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Christian Nationalists Team Up on Illicit Push to Get Churches to Campaign for Trump
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Remember, if you see or hear a church actively campaigning for any sort of politics you can report them and get their tax free status taken away. 👍
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That’s the brilliant thing about the making politics about cultural issues. Churches can campaign for culture shit all day long. They just can’t say “vote for _____.”
But that's exactly what they're doing.
Even when they do, and I have sent in photo of a local church with "Trump 2020" on their placard, nothing at all happens to them.
They aren't even contacted as far as I can tell.
I mean, it’s supposed to work that way but that's extremely rare.
If enough get reported, especially since now it's been vocalized and reported. They're going to be forced to do something about it. I acknowledge it is wishful thinking, though, but don't give up. Report these fucks either way.
Doing something about it has a non-zero chance of success.
Doing nothing about it has a guaranteed chance of failure.
Can I report a church I don't attend, just so they become paranoid about who snitched?
Yup, as long as they're campaigning for Trump or campaigning for political figures in general, have at it.
Someone with some cyberintelligence background could have a lot of fun setting their software to search for social media posts from pastors/churches looking for explicit political messaging.
Maybe talk to the local news about it.
Record it happening so you have evidence to back it up. Get it onto social media so everyone can help report it, too!
Nothing at all will happen. I doubt you can find a single "legitimate" (with a real congregation & actual employees) church that has had their tax free status challenged, let alone removed in the last 30 years.
Branch Ministries in New York had it done in 92 after taking out a full page political ad in the newspaper.
I didn't know that was a thing that could happen
I've got to do some research because my grandparents church has been doing this since Bush Sr.
Not a single church ever has had their tax status taken away for politics. It doesn't happen
It happened in 92, but that's the only publicly known instance.
Has that ever happened?
So your answer is to do nothing and be apathetic?
I've reported a church, with photo evidence from multiple angles. Literally nothing happened.
That law has never been enforced against a "legitimate" church.
We totally believe you random internet stranger. Totally.
It's more pointing out how the suggested action is bullshit. It's like if you had a leaking roof and someone said to blow soap bubbles on it. And then when you point out that's a nonsensical solution that has no chance of working, they reply "oH, so YoU juSt waNT to Do NotHinG anD bE apaThEtic?"
Pointing out that someones suggestion is a non-solution is not an endorsement of doing nothing. It's pointing out that the suggestion is not helpful and distracts from actual solutions.
Pretending the IRS would actually go after a church is ignoring the reality of the situation. I don't want suggestions that would only work in some deluded made up fantasy world.
It takes little effort. You're saying to not do it, while also not suggesting anything to do. Your suggestion has an even lower chance of success than the OP, so if anyone shouldn't be listened to it's you.
Collect evidence and submit it. Also work on getting better elected officials, unionizing, protesting, and whatever else you can do. If your suggestion is to stop doing something and not replacing it with something more effective then you should just keep your mouth shut.
How about we throw a bunch of birthday candles in the nearest lake?
And remember, you can't tell me that's stupid and unproductive because by your logic, that would clearly mean you are advocating for doing nothing.
Are you starting to see how nonsense your argument is?
And remember, that report will go nowhere and you'll accomplish nothing! The IRS has never gone after a church for this. Never. Reporting them is just as effective as quietly whispering "please tax them" into your pillow at night.
I wish people would recognize the failures in our system and stop suggesting others do shit that doesn't actually work.
Then what do you suggest? You obviously have better ideas? Or do you prefer to just bitch about things and not try to make a change?
I also wish people would stop saying there's no hope so do nothing.
No, record them and send it to the IRS. If nothing happens then fine. Nothing was lost. Along with that work towards change. Telling people the system is broken so do nothing is not going to get you the change you want.
Lol that'll be the day. Has that ever happened? Ever?