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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by CDommunist@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

I loved Bernie in 2016 and 2020, Bernie and M4A were big reasons I moved leftward, but I'm disappointed by how big of a tankie Bernie has been about Israel. His far left online supporters have infected his brain with fascist ideas like having news coverage unfairly report how many Palestinians have died. I first got hints of his redfash Marxism when he wanted to abandoned the women of Afghanistan by saying the US should end the forever war, but forever war = forever equal rights.

Anybody else taken back by how far left Bernie is on Foreign policy? I'm kinda glad he lost now ngl

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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, if Bernie won in 2016 or 20, he would be a better president than Biden or even better than he is as a Senator right now, because he would owe his position (and reelection chances) to the left donor/activist base. And a bunch of liberals would probably support a 3rd party candidate against him, so even as an incumbent he would probably have big problems with getting reelected. Right now, he is a Senator, if he wants to run again in Vermont he can easily do that and he doesn't need the left base anymore, since he is not running for president ever again.

So instead he can support whatever policy positions he actually wants, OR he is trying to win favor with Biden in exchange for some small policy crumbs in some other area (something that he should know doesn't work with any liberal politicians, but again, I guess he is just old). In both cases, I disagree with him ideologically, but he is an old guy who is probably retiring from politics soon, so whatever. The left should not be too hung up on individuals, remember that politicians are just a tool to implement policy. The really sad thing is that it will be harder and harder for a Sanders-style candidate (someone who wouldn't actually owe his position to big corporations) to even run for the nomination ever again, especially since big money interests kind of figured out they "only" need to outspend left-wing candidates by around 3:1 and they've been very successful in recent elections.

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