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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago

I think the comments are cutting Alphabet too much slack. Yes the billionaire is heartless, but he isn't wrong. Alphabet was careless. They binged on talent because they did not, and do not, place significant weight on the consequences of their hubris. Why? Because ultimately it is the workers that have to pay the price, not the executives that hired carelessly. If you do not force management to care, they won't.

I always think of Indeed and their CEO. They too hired too many too quickly and were forced to fire. What did the CEO do? Not only did the company make sure the severance package was generous, the CEO took a pay cut too.

All well and good, but the thing is... Even the narrative that workers now have to pay for the CEO's mistakes gives the CEO an unjustified excuse.

Nope. Alphabet is insanely, embarrassingly profitable and was during their first layoffs. There is no reason why they needed to fire anyone. If they committed to their workers a fraction of they level they demand their workers commit to them, they would not have done the layoffs.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have heard that sometimes they hire talents just so the competitors don't get them, so talented people end up doing bullshit jobs and the salary discourages them from moving to more interesting but risky endeavors.

Edit: source https://www.businessinsider.com/google-meta-staff-do-fake-work-says-vc-keith-rabois-2023-3?r=US&IR=T

[-] steventrouble@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yup, I heard this rumor at Google when I worked there, and it does make some amount of sense. If the best engineers aren't working for the competition, then nobody else can compete. I doubt it's true, but it did often felt like we were paid to work on trivial tasks.

It's a shame because there was work that could have been done to improve Google's business, but execs took engineers off of them to move to Google Cloud (AKA, "sit on your hands and wait 2 years for your doc to be approved"). Google had so many good products that engineers truly wanted to work on like Stadia, Domains, and Area 120, and they cancelled them all. It happened so often that a couple of my coworkers pretended to hate working on their team "so it wouldn't get cancelled".

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

The thing about Google is that they have one of the highest profit-per-employee metrics in the whole industry.

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