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Netanyahu defies Biden, insisting there’s ‘no space’ for Palestinian state
(www.theguardian.com)
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Why does the "sole remaining Superpower nation" bow to a small onery loud mouthed pseudo-nation? Which one is in charge? Curious.
Because taking them to task implies that supporting them for the last seventy years might have been a mistake.
We're Americans. We don't quit just because we're wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right!
Boo-rah!
Also, turn out at the polls. Certain Christian voting blocks think supporting Israel is critical for end of days prophecies. And some swing districts have old retirees that show up to vote and have sympathy for Israel.
Because Israel has put a great deal of effort into shaping US public opinion and controlling US politicians since the 1980s, when the Israeli left effectively rolled over and croaked, because the Israeli right knew the day would come when they'd need to stall for time while they finished up their genocide.
One reason is that they're a militarily important foothold for our presence in the middle east. Same goes for the UK.
It seems like people genuinely do not know about the nukes that Israel definitely does not possess wink wink. Kinda changes the dynamic a little bit, I think.
“If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.” ~Joe Biden
The State is absolutely necessary to U.S. interests in the Middle East.
Seems that this policy didn't age well. SA is getting closer to Iran, China is everywhere, Turkey is shaping its own regional policy. There's no much room anymore for Yankee interference in the Middle-East. Even the US government wants to refocus much of its foreign policy toward Asia-Pacific.
Israel has spent decades building a powerful lobbying bloc in Washington. American-Israel PAC is one of the top 3 donors of Congress competing with NRA. They made ties with evangelicals and give free vacations to Israel for every politician. They establish ties with both major political parties and spend millions to defeat any congressman who criticizes Israel.
It seems weird that another country can lobby our government. Are there any others doing that? Russia? China? Like do they all have officially recognized lobbying groups?
Foreign countries are legally banned from donating to US politicians and any foreign lobbyists have to be registered. AIPAC has skirted around those laws and even been caught in some scandals over it (e.g. Larry Franklin passing classified documents to the Israeli ambassador) but has made powerful friends and avoided law enforcement.
Because they have nukes and would use them on their neighbors.
While screaming and crying about how all those neighbors hate them
To be fair, they do. Iran, Jordan, and Egypt have tried repeatedly to eliminate Israel entirely.
It was because they started illegally stealing land, causing havoc in the region, you don’t steal others house and then wonder why they want to destroy yours
No it’s because they hate Jews.
Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iran, and Lebanon do not give a single fuck about Palestine or Palestinians. They want the land for themselves.
From 1948 to 1967 Jordan owned the West Bank. And Egypt controlled Gaza.
No Palestinian state was created then when it could have been. Jordanians and Egyptians built settlements of their own and displaced Palestinians.
Egypt refuses to take in Palestinians now.
For hundred of years, the French tried to make the Muslims attack the Jews of North Africa. They wouldn't. Eventually Israel kidnapped them.
Israel kidnapped the Yemeni Jews. They hope to return but they can't because Saudi/US is trying to destroy Yemen.
Iraqi Jews refuse to leave Badhdad. They love it there.
Iranian Jews refuse to leave the "evil Iran who wants to kill all Jews.
White people killed millions of their own Jews.
Who hates "the Jews"?
Whatabout what your mom does, down by the docks at night?
Jordan?
Yes? Jordan has participated in every conflict against Israel since 1947.
OK, didn't seem like a major player in wars against Israel, at least in the last 20 years
Removed, anti-Semitism.
I am afraid those conspiracy theorists were somewhat right, just replace jews with Israel
Your fears are unfounded, and your quickness to jump to them is unsettling.
The US and UK rely on israel playing nice in order to maintain a base and foothold in the region.
If israel did or does anything that actually threatened either nation, the soft hand would firm up quickly. But to these leaders, the genocide of brown people is little more than a minor PR problem. Not an actually threatening problem for their countries. So they see no reason to risk their foothold.
Netanyahu himself has said that US is easily manipulated, biden is (seemingly) constantly trying to pressure him to stop, but constantly sending support, and UK is doing no shit
My point is that if Israel has this much power, it is definitely a worry-some situation for anyone who is not in the US and UK, which is like 95% of the people, this situation has destabilized the middle east, putting so many lives at stake, but no one seems to give a fuck
Israel is probably not gonna drop bombs on the US, so idk about that, but the thing Israel can influence the US, but the US can’t seem to be able to influence Israel