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[-] crackajack@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Ukraine split amicably with Russia and the borders were agreed upon after the fall of Soviet Union. The same source that you linked for your last picture would have also shown survey that Russian-speaking Ukrainians also do not wish their country to be split despite the disagreements.

But Putin exacerbated the division for his own end (same as how he stoked tensions in Georgia). That's like Republic of Ireland stoking tensions in Northern Ireland to get back the north. Or, Turkey doing the same to take over the entirety of Cyprus after already taking over the northern part of the island. All of those would violate international sovereignty of a nation under the UN Charter, which Russia have practically done in the case of Ukraine.

Russian MO is so easy to call out. They copy the playbook from another fascist claiming ethnic Germans abroad were being oppressed to justify invasion. Even though there was no evidence.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

It's pretty funny how when Donbas wants to separate from nazis, it's Putin, Putin, Putin. But when US backed DPP wants separatism in Taiwan, it's just wholesome freedom and democracy. Apparently, people in Donbas don't get any agency of their own, and nobody can imagine why they wouldn't want to live under a western backed regime that's trying to erase their identity.

[-] crackajack@reddthat.com -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As if the referendum in Eastern Ukraine wasn't totally done at gunpoint and there was no clear video evidence of counting ballots as yes, despite the ballot being blank.

Funny there is no desire by Russian-speaking Baltics to try to join Russia. It is though Kremlin knows exactly not to agitate NATO members. Putin meanwhile harangued Georgia and Ukraine because they're not NATO members.

Edit: Also, the UN themselves stated they found no evidence of genocide or discrimination on Russian-speakers in Ukraine in 2015.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I love how you just keep lying about things that are publicly documented

There's even a whole hour long French documentary about what Ukraine's been up to in Donbas after the coup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs

Incredible how you claim people who were being ethnically cleansed were joining Russia at gunpoint. 🤡

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[-] crackajack@reddthat.com -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No country would want a part of them to secede. Majority of Eastern Ukrainians are still loyal to Ukraine-- the issue had been more about where to align until Putin exacerbated the tensions rather than easing them, especially after invading Crimea. Of course, no country would want a part of them to secede. Ukraine did not approve of this and things only escalated. The conflict in Eastern Ukraine was a civil, domestic matter but Kremlin made it an international one.

The UN did say there is no ethnic cleansing but Kremlin obviously worked behind the scenes to stoke tensions. The usual boogeyman of Azov battalion and Ukrainian far right only appeared in large groups in May 2015, long after 2014 Maidan revolution and after the Russian annexation of Crimea in early 2015.

Your own state Russian TV station videoed counting blank ballots as yes in the supposed referendum. Maybe you should get glasses old fart 🤡

Again, this is like Republic of Ireland invading the politically British territory of Northern Ireland and then invading England. Or Turkey invading the whole of Cyprus after already annexing the north. It's illegal and you know.

You know who else invaded other countries under trumped up justification to protect German minorities abroad? Why won't Russia invade Baltics then to protect Russian speakers? Russian nationalists are a strange lot.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago
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