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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago

Remember when BLM heckled Bernie during 2015 campaign?

If you think Biden is your problem, wait until orange gets elected.

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 68 points 8 months ago

The difference is that Biden IS the current president and is the one that sidestepped congress to give Israel aid without many strings attached. Yeah, come November, don't choose orange, but that doesn't mean Biden shouldn't face pressure in the meantime.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

And then Congress voted overwhelmingly to not attach said strings after the fact. Biden isn't the only problem here.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

Biden isn’t the only problem here.

He isn't, but he's one third of the government (one half when it comes to foreign policy) and he's only been using that position to make the situation worse.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

What a weird comment. As if Congress isn't universally despised by antiwar activists. Let me know how else protestors can feasibly make demands directly to an entire branch of government that isn't just one person.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah and if I could vote for other states congress people then that would matter but until then I just got like two dudes who represent me there, probably different ones than you. Probably ones you've never heard of, so am I really gonna dox my district by talking about two specific dudes who few if any of you are familiar with?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago

If anything increase the pressure so they actually feel threatened enough to get some progressive work done.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Problem is that the pressure of today may lead the orange man to win tomorrow.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

Then maybe Biden should do something differently. It's his reelection and he claims his only reason for running is to defeat Trump.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Completely see your point, but unlike Trump, Biden might actually be movable by protest during an election year.

Granted the White House's position on Israel has already shifted considerably since their lockstep pledge of unity.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago
[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Not the other guy, but there's been some posts on lemmy saying some white house staff are pressuring Biden to rethink his Israel position.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

There is a lot of room to hide in those words

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

And here I thought making shit up was exclusive to conservatives.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Your skepticism is warranted but the lack of links in my comment is sheer laziness.

I will update it with links if you don't mind waiting.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

I can wait. Names of people with direct access to Biden and quotes please. Since you know this is a fact, it should be easy.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Administration officials, who will all have direct approval from the White House, have been openly criticizing Israel, albeit in the weakest way possible. That is a shift, but it's just words and no where near substantial enough to back off and trust they're going to do the right thing. It's progress only insofar as the starting state was "the civilian deaths were unfortunate events no one could be blamed for because Israel is doing the most any nation could to prevent collateral damage and death".

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Blinken said "there does remain a gap between exactly what I said when I was there, the intent to protect civilians, and the actual results that we’re seeing on the ground". And Biden said "I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful”. Weak and without any threat of actual action, but not the gaslighting of earlier.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

He might be. But this childish hyperbole isn't the way to do it.

[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 27 points 8 months ago

I'll take ol' Joe over the orange cancer any day.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 8 months ago

And trump would likely be worse. All the conservative dipshits love what Israel is doing right now.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Not likely, he will be exponentially worse.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 8 months ago

Probably. At least Biden has the ability to understand the criticism.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They sure do. Some of them are even Republicans.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

This argument is an insult to all voters.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately, it's the game you are living in

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I think it was in 2020 when that idiot got up on stage with him.

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