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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

I'm less familiar with these sovcits but this post got me thinking, what do y'all think the Venn diagram between this type of person and those who complain about "illegal" immigrants looks like? Are these the same nutjob racists or are they a different kind of nutjob?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

When you start digging into who is behind the conspiracy, you tend to hit "the Jews" (or a corresponding dogwhistle) pretty reliably, which leads to concerns less about illegal immigrants, and more about brown people.

I had a friend who went from moon landing conspiracism to flat earth, sovcit, Nazi over the course of a couple of years. I called the coming Nazism well over a year ahead of time, and people thought I was nuts. When most conspiracies blame the Jews, I can't understand why people get surprised by it.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

That's a bit of 'surprised Pikachu' energy, like what else would you expect if most conspiracies are "[some group based on an arbitrary trait] is in control and hides it"

The exceptions are probably just trollz that went out of control and found real followers, like flat earth

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Most of the Nazis don't know what they believe - you look at /pol as an example - haha funny racist jokes - I'm just saying this to trigger the libs... unless you'd be up for a little genocide - because if you're into that kind of thing, I might be too.

Schrodinger's Nazi.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

A lot of sovcits are actually black (the Moorish Science Temple has a lot of them for some reason), but they all haaaaaate Jews. Sovereign citizen movement has roots in white supremacy for sure though.

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