Sovereign citizen getting a fake passport because he is a deadbeat dad. : insanepeoplefacebook

[-] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 106 points 10 months ago

…How do these people not realise they’re being scammed? It’s… blatant!

It could only be more obvious if the documents were being held by a Nigerian Prince who wanted to send $1 million along with them! I feel like I could walk up to one of these fools and tell them, “I am actively scamming you, but if you trust me with a few dollars, magical fairies will come and restore you to your prime and grant you and those you love eternal youth, life, and wealth,” and they’d give me everything they could get their hands on!

It’s almost hard to not pity them at this point…

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

The Facebook groups have thousands of people. I think the parallels between these people and Qanon are pretty significant.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

The best (worst?) part about this… that address is a church

They are being scammed by a church, but is a time honored tradition

[-] JohnSmith@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Pretty much every one that goes to Church is being scammed by a church.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Some people like the community aspect of it, and doing charity / volunteer work. But other than that you are mostly right.

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[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It would be fun to come up with a grift like this but use the same twisted legalese to claim what they are paying for is worthless. If you can't beat em, join em.

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[-] wahming 74 points 10 months ago

At this point we should just rename the community to InsaneSovCits. Not that I don't get a chuckle out of the posts

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

I've pretty much taken it over lol but I've always wanted to share this lunacy so forgive me.

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Content is content, keep up the good work!

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 10 months ago

This has quickly become my favorite topic to browse. Please continue

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I've been collecting these for years and my friends are sick of it so you'll definitely be entertained. The depths of their crazy is bottomless.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Please keep at it. This stuff is gold

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[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 64 points 10 months ago

Who wants to open a business with me to fleece sovcits who think this kind of thing is legit?

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 45 points 10 months ago

I mean, it looks like that business is already there selling passports. Maybe we could sell them World Vehicle Registration plates?

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Sure. As long as it doesn't conflict with my business ripping off maga nuts by selling trump 2024 merch.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Or my business of selling repackaged scented oils labelled as Covid cures.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Countries that have accepted the World Passport

The following is a list of countries which, on at least one occasion, have recognized the World Passport on a "de facto" basis, by stamping a national visa and/or entry/exit stamp.

I like the fact that they argue their passport isn't fake because some bored / overworked customs guy once stamped it.

Their website has a Legal section as well, but I'm too tired to look through it.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The World Passport is a fantasy travel document sold by the World Service Authority, a non-profit organization founded by Garry Davis in 1954.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Passport

Wikipedia's throwing down.

Also I had to find this list:

https://worldservice.org/visas.html

They're claiming 191 out of 192 countries recognise their shitty document.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Yes thats a document. A meaningless one, but it sure is a document.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

They are for sure including countries that have stamped it "no entry." Technically it has been stamped. I'm pretty sure policy is to stamp a little logo and some check boxes onto whatever document is presented, and if it's not a legit document, it is stamped as such.

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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

Isn't applying for a passport like this, from any third party, kind of directly counter to what sovcits say they stand for? What with the sending of photos and money to a shadowy organisation to be registered in a database, and all.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago

What sovcits believe in is being as much of a stupid dumbass as possible because being intelligent makes you a sheep.

[-] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago

It should be legal to scam people this dumb

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago

Depending on the wording of the website where he got this...it might be .

[-] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I mean… who are they gonna complain to?

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I just got a great business idea. World Citizen Bureau of Investigation, LLC. File a World Citizen complaint against any...world citizen. Filing fee of $395.

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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

I'm less familiar with these sovcits but this post got me thinking, what do y'all think the Venn diagram between this type of person and those who complain about "illegal" immigrants looks like? Are these the same nutjob racists or are they a different kind of nutjob?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

When you start digging into who is behind the conspiracy, you tend to hit "the Jews" (or a corresponding dogwhistle) pretty reliably, which leads to concerns less about illegal immigrants, and more about brown people.

I had a friend who went from moon landing conspiracism to flat earth, sovcit, Nazi over the course of a couple of years. I called the coming Nazism well over a year ahead of time, and people thought I was nuts. When most conspiracies blame the Jews, I can't understand why people get surprised by it.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

A lot of sovcits are actually black (the Moorish Science Temple has a lot of them for some reason), but they all haaaaaate Jews. Sovereign citizen movement has roots in white supremacy for sure though.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago

Print application form. Application must be made in writing.

Forms may be emailed.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Print, write, scan, then email?

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[-] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Same energy over here in germany. People buy id cards stating they are citizens of the „Deutsches Reich“. Of course there are several groups claiming they are an exile government, succesors, etc. and ripping of delusional people. Frankly, no pity from me.

[-] Localhorst86@feddit.de 21 points 10 months ago

I wish I didn't have a conscience, so I could fleece those people myself and get rich of their stupidity.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Someones gonna get their ass rotorootered by the TSA the second they try to go through customs with this

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

You kinda want them to manage to get past the TSA so they can get arrested trying to illegally enter another country and have to decide if getting help from the state department is worth admitting they are a US citizen

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Yes, lets go with that instead.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I'd be a sucker to not buy the 10 year passport for $100!!

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hey so

How illegal would it be if I set up "services" for these idiots and took their money? I could even advertise as non-legal documents and "spread the rumor" that they totally are legal, it just has to say that.

I'm sure lots of them would freely give me their money for a "count of iceland"-or-whatever-title-that-was-like document.

Edit: Oh, guess I'm too late lol

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

It's possible that it's the perfect crime. Because this is definitely fraud, but as long as it's a sovcit going after you you have a high chance if beating them in a court of law as long as you have lawyer. Because they will be self representing and spouting complete insanity. You do have a pretty high chance of getting shot though, so do all your business online.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I'm seriously thinking on it. Seriously. Surely a first-year law student could form a disclaimer that would pass muster.

"This product/service/whatever is not legal for use by citizens of the United States of America. This product/service/whatever confers no legal, uh, anything, in an American court of law."

"Not legal tender.", sort of thing. My god, you could take these people with monopoly money.

At this point I'm tired of being a decent, moral man. Why should I not grift these idiots? Why should I not print up Trump flags and Jesus flags? I could sleep at night taking these idiot's money.

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[-] proper@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

of the WORLD, Craig

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 10 months ago

Omg, what a great scam! I could just sell meaningless documents to stupid fucks and quit my job.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I can hear the curb your enthusiasm theme playing when the guy is told it is not a valid travel document. 🤡

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

I love how he thinks he needs it to drive through america.

[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

He talks about getting DOT exempt tags...probably bought from somewhere. They probably do not have a driver's license or car registration, so this is them trying to be like "I don't need them. See I paid someone to print this fake passport up for me with my name on it."

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I mean, is selling fake medicine for fake illnesses really a crime?

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I wonder if they realized how fucked they would be if they managed to leave the US, refused entry at the next country, then refused entry back to the US.

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[-] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

this is what I imagine people like this sound like

(youtube direct)

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[-] PostnataleAbtreibung@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I am seriously wondering why they ordered eleven copies. Why would you even be able to order more than one?

I mean, yes, this is scam, but still…

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