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I think teaching people how protests work is pretty important praxis and is not talked about nearly enough.

Moderates and liberals tend to think of protest and demonstration as the same thing and anything that is not a demonstration is generally though of as bad or counterproductive.

Most of the populace simply doesn't understand that blocking roads or getting arrested have strategic value. They consider the goal of every protest to be to raise awareness and support and to convince people like them ™️ that any given cause is worth supporting and that their support is all it really takes to a make change happen. It's a very self-centered view of how political movement work and it seems unfortunately quite obiquitous.

They see a road block and think "that just makes you look bad" and the thought process ends there because now your movement isn't worth supporting in their eyes. If you try to explain that blocking off roads is often done to cut off supply lines to financial districts or big corporations and put economic pressure on them or the politicians they donate to, they refuse to engage with the idea entirely or claim that it doesn't actually work and the only way to protest successfully is to win over people like them even though they've probably never been to a demonstration, let alone a direct action event and if they did they'd probably do more harm than good given how ignorant they are on the subject.

We really need to educate people about protesting tactics, how they work, what they actually seek to achieve, and how different methods put pressure on different areas to get different effects and I think you probably can't teach this to older generations but younger generations are capable of learning and we really need them to learn this.

Teaching people to think in terms of systems and take a structural approach when trying to change a system is paramount because, in the current state of things, the common belief seems to be if enough people wave signs from the sidewalk, things magically work out in the end.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, but it’s important to understand it as burning goodwill to do so. And it’s also important to understand that the most effective protests disrupt those with power and garner sympathy from others. ACT UP managed that. They disrupted the medical establishment that was ignoring our deaths and did so while portraying us as a sympathetic people dying in pain after caring for our dying friends.

Disruption without point is ineffective. A pre planned three day strike without the will to move to an indefinite one isn’t effective.

ETA: I guess my point is that disruption is a powerful tactic, but without strategy you’re doomed. Pure demonstration is a popular strategy because it’s low risk, but the reward is shit. A strategy that tries to use the right tactics at the right times to ensure that their next move is even more effective or leaves them better than they started is how you win. Look to the black civil rights movement for good strategy and you’ll see it. They got so good at strategy that later some of the most effective strategists of the gay liberation movement were black people who’d been involved in their civil rights movement.

[-] LKPU26@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

I remember Extinction Rebellion blocking roads in the UK. There was a woman with a disabled child in the car. She pleased with them to let her through and the protesters said their cause was more important.

I think protests like this cause more harm than good.

Even extinction rebellion state these tactics need a rethink.

Does it increase awareness of climate change, sure. Does it polarise the population and turn more people against protests/the cause?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah you let the person in immediate need through.

But I’ve seen it be effective. But as I’ve said you don’t do it randomly. It’s a key component of striking actually. You block entrance into an area. But yeah it’s everyone’s favorite tactic because while it’s not low risk it’s not gonna get you terrorism charges like dropping some thermite into a coal fired power plant will. But that thermite is a self executing protest. Green energy is cheaper to build and maintain, it only becomes more expensive when compared to existing power plants when you still have to build it.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 9 months ago

Extinction Rebellion is just more noise, to make its supporters feel like they're doing something while they're in fact entirely counterproductive. Similar to PETA. There are better organisations to support, who are working hard on these important causes.

[-] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

We had bus drivers protests. They were not allowed to strike because "essential service", so instead they publicly announced that they would "forget" to check people's tickets.

Effectively they gathered people's sympathy while distributing profits. That was effective!

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