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Any othet alternative to telegram that is more open sourced , privacy ,security focused is available in fdroid etc. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Wanted to know if there are any other android apps with features like telegram such as sending ,recieving big files creating channels etc. Using a bot or channel in telegram to pirate movies and series are infinitely easier than torrenting . But as telegram is not fully open source and requires a phone number to create an account i am looking to see if there are any better alternatives which aldready does have a piracy ring like telegram . If you know any share . I am asking this here because i think it is the right sub and i can't find an alternative anywhere on the web . If it isn't the sub for this i will delete the post if you request so in the comments.

EDIT : It seems everyone missed my questions point i don't want a privacy focused app like telegram to chat i want a app that is privacy focused but can also help me pirate media .

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

While I agree with your and a more open/private telegram would be great the thing is that the current alternatives, Signal, Matrix, whatever are simply subpar alternatives when it comes to the clients. We can say a lot about telegram's privacy but the true is that all their native mobile and desktop clients outperform everything else out there. (I wonder why a native app would outperform react garbage :P).

The only think that might be private yet as performant as Telegram might be some kind of XMPP but the issue with that is that mobile clients suck.

[-] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't think matrix have piracy groups but yes in terms of privacy it's the best (ok maybe not the best and i should have put some reaserch into it my bad guys . i don't use it though)

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, Matrix isn't the best in terms of privacy. It is a metadata disaster and Telegram clients are still more performant.

Matrix's E2EE does not, however, encrypt everything. The following information is not encrypted: Message senders, Session/device IDs, Message timestamps, Room members (join/leave/invite events), Message edit events, Message reactions, Read receipts, Nicknames, Profile pictures

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 9 months ago

ive been scared to say i dont like matrix. so many people seem in love with it.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Ask your mates with whom you connect on telegram to move to matrix

[-] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lol from telegram my friends won't move from instagram to telegram only a few of them are available in telegram that too rarely. I am the only one not on insta in our friends group and everyone aldready thinks i am tinfoil hat guy if i tell them about frediverse and the problems with using instagram they will think i am going nuts . I just call them if i want to talk nowadays .

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

I've seen and heard of a few. Thing is when you join them you'll only get access to newer stuff there, the E2EE makes past messages unreadable if you haven't been there for a while. It's not like on Telegram where you get Room history access.