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I don't think it is a fair comparison to say breaking into someone's house is equivalent to claiming asylum.
I also personally just don't understand the issue with increased immigration - it gives us a larger labor pool, and counteracts our declining population.
There's a proper way to claim asylum, and it's not swimming across the Rio Grande at midnight.
Yeah it just requires money, time and connections. People fleeing countries have all of those things right?
"If I'm poor the rules shouldn't apply."
When the rules are “don’t be poor” then yeah, it might be a little unfair.
If you think the rules are unfair, work to change them. Every person walking across the border is giving a middle finger to the qualified LEGAL immigrants waiting YEARS to be naturalized, many of them with financial challenges of their own.
Right, better that they die in their own country rather than seek asylum elsewhere and “give the middle finger” to those with more money, connections and time than they have.
Dying is bad but being disrespectful of unfair rules? Well nothing is worse than that.
Maybe it's unfair their own country isn't helping them. Again, if you feel our rules are unfair there are mechanisms to change them. Ignoring them is not the proper approach.
I know, I already agreed with you. Being proper is much more important than people’s lives. Much smarter to work on changing the laws of a country you don’t reside in, or you not dying might have the horrible tragedy of breaking a rule.
As a diabetic, I wasn't able to obtain affordable insulin (which threatens my life), so I hijacked a truck and stole a case. This is clearly morally correct.
This response is so American it drives a pickup truck.
It certainly isn't morally wrong, no
It's always ethical to steal from big pharma, fuck them, but especially so if you were fucking dying thanks to the inflated price of insulin
"i had to go through miserable bullshit so you have to too" is not doing what you think its doing
Maybe we should allow border free flow.
Sure, and you should just let random people off the street walk into your bedroom.
To make laws that man can not and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt. It is very important in a republic, that the people should respect the laws, for if we throw them to the winds, what becomes of civil government?
—Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1860)
Given the current policies of the Biden administration, my understanding is that most immigrants are actually going through the legal process of claiming asylum.
Channel 5 did a little mini documentary about it that I personally enjoyed: https://youtu.be/2dQ4-VNaG3s
I fail to see how that legal process involves almost drowning in a river or becoming entangled in razor wire. We are talking about separate groups of people: some requesting asylum the LEGAL way and others taking a chance and YOLOing across the border.
Except that walking across the border and surrendering to the border patrol IS the legal way.
So then why are people swimming across rivers and getting ensnared in razor wire, vs legally crossing at designated entry points? If they intend to surrender to border patrol, why not enter the US where the border patrol is present instead of sneaking across? In Tijuana, one can stand in line, get cleared by customs and enter the country. None of that has anything to do with razor wire.
Because the entry points are closed.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158
They are actually following the legal process
The entry points are closed? Not one person crosses the border from Mexico to the US each day?