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[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago
[-] athos77@kbin.social 76 points 10 months ago

They're trying to provoke a reaction that they can sell to their media-fueled-paranoid Christonationalists to drive them to the polls.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

They should react, because ignoring this line-toeing is what causes them to just be bolder next time. Remember when all the Republican calls for banning abortion were just rabble rousing for political benefit and they didn't really mean it? Trump telling his followers to fight? Republicans saying trans people are molesting kids?

Ignoring their provocation isn't winning 5D chess, it's paving the way to actual violence. If a state says they're going to block the federal government and calls for aligned states to send troops to support them, you need to shut that shit down.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's going through the courts and I'm sure simply escalating has its own constitutional issue.

The military is not a police force. You are asking that we activate the thing Trump wants to use for authoritarian rule.

I'd rather have the all the guardsman found in contempt and then issued arrest warrants that are enforced. That's one example of what could happen.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

This isn't a question of law. The law is entirely clear that federal agents (a police force) have dominion over the border. They shouldn't have gone through the courts in the first place, they should have simply showed up with a bunch of federal agents and started arresting anyone who stopped them. There's nothing unclear about what the constitution says happens here. You don't need a court to say blocking a federal agent from doing their job is illegal.

They don't need to bring in the military unless armed agents of Texas start resisting, in which case it is insurrection and the military is the right tool for the job. This idea that maybe we should just let Texas play at rebellion for 9 months until the court tells them (again) that federal supremacy is real is the ridiculous.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, make up a fake cause and then brag to your base about how good of a job you're doing tackling it.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago

Full blown treason at this point.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a Texas owned park. The Feds are claiming it for a processing area.

That's where Texas appears to be staking their claim: it's ours and you can't take it under the Constitution.

Everything else is people on both sides dreaming up fantasy scenarios with little basis in what's likely. Yes, Texas will continue to escalate, but they aren't going to try to secede.

From the article:

"On Friday, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton refused the federal government's request for access to the border and demanded proof that the federal government has the authority to turn a Texas park into a port of entry. "

I know Texas is picking and choosing the framing, but the above is what the AG (corrupt as he may be) is saying. Because he needs to win a case.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This whole thing is political theater. Literally half a mile down the road from the park the wall is open and immigrants are able to freely cross. Immigrants who cross the border aren't clueless or aimless either; the vast majority head straight to a DHS checkpoint to start the asylum process. This is because most people crossing are literally just trying to seek a better life by working the jobs Americans refuse to do for pay that's higher than what they could earn in their home countries. Additionally, while reports of increased numbers of people crossing the border are true, so is the opposite. People are leaving at almost the same rate. It's crazy how people don't see that immigration is a made up issue.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All politics is theater. If you can't handle that, get off the stage.

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