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[-] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

I believe the rules wouldn't apply. Usually when a company is asked to provide data and they refuse they are forced to shut down. But since Lemmy is decentralized, I believe if the cops were to ask someone to provide the IP of a user, they can just say no and shut down the server at least temporarily, and then possibly bring it back up under a new domain and ip.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 9 months ago

IANAL but withholding evidence from a court order can hold you in contempt of court. I remember hearing a story of a person who was accused of having CSAM on an encrypted hard drive, and refused to decrypt it, and is in jail until he decrypts it. Just because you're a person doesn't mean you can ignore a warrant.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 44 points 9 months ago

information itself is a liability. best to have a policy of 'we keep no IPs in logs, so are happy to hand over whatever'.. dump data the moment you dont require it

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

yeah, this sounds like a much more sustainable solution. Do it the way signal does it. Collect as little as necessary, and delete it as soon as you dont need it.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Just store what logs you need on a ram drive. The logs will be gone the instant the server shuts down and there is no way to recover them.

[-] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Downsides include : if any intrusion happens on the server, red team just needs to reboot it to wipe evidence.

[-] Perhyte@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If they have the root access typically needed to reboot a server^1^ they could also just wipe the logs without rebooting.

^1^: GUIs typically have a way to reboot without such privileges, but those are typically not installed on machines just used as servers.

[-] Davel23@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I looked into that guy somewhat recently, he was in jail for something like five years then eventually released. Kind of a sickening situation all around.

[-] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Good to know. They should implement no log policies then

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Imagine contempt of court but you don’t live in the US

[-] esserstein@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

With the federation does that also mean that the ip records are replicated? Because that would be a lot of parties that can be threatened, with only one required to give in...

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