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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday he is sending National and Florida State Guard troops to Texas to help that state put up razor wire fences on the southern border, a move in apparent defiance of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on the contentious immigration issue.

DeSantis said it would be the “first-ever deployment” for the State Guard, a force he re-established in 2022 after being defunct for 75 years.

But Florida law says the State Guard, which reports directly to the governor, is to be used “exclusively within the state,” and a proposed bill to allow out-of-state deployments has not been passed by the Legislature.

DeSantis spokesman Jeremy Redfern did not respond to a request for comment on the use of the State Guard outside of Florida.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago

For fucks sake, they really want Civil War 2, don't they.

[-] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 39 points 7 months ago

What's crazy is, no, they don't want war. They want to get reelected indefinitely for status and profit, and will say anything to get that. The shit they say incites their followers to want war, and that is advantageous for them.

The politicians know their bluffs will be called, but if they keep people mad and scared, they can keep farming donations and votes from rubes. They've done it for decades. This rhetoric gets stale eventually, so they have to keep amplifying the message, to the point they're now posturing for a civil war they know won't ever come.

Meanwhile, their voters are bashing people on the head with hammers or killing family members because they've been told to be scared for decades, and are now being told to fight back.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

The politicians know their bluffs will be called,

They want their bluffs to be called, because then they can squawk ab it it the big bad Deep State oppressing them.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't really know what DeSantis and Trump really want. I know some of these people who follow them though, and yes, they absolutely want civil war. That may not continue if it starts happening and they find out what the reality is like, but right now they want it.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I mean that’s the thing, to fight a war these retirees would have to actually do some fighting. The younger population-read: the ones they expect to fight for them-are almost universally not fucking interested in defending their bigotry

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The population I was thinking of sits inside a kind of late-30s-to-mid-40s, white man with child custody issues and a lot of bitterness which right-wing media likes to feed into, middle ground. The 60+ year olds want a civil war but with rare exceptions will do absolutely 0 to move it forward. The sub-30-year-olds I think are mostly just not Republicans except for some outliers. But there's a not insignificant number of guys out there in the in between who wish they could worry about troop movements and have their grand adventure instead of worrying about excise tax warrants and layoffs.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

We would have to actually end the first civil war before we could technically start a new one. They did have terms of surrender etc signed. But only the leadership surrendered. It's been a cold civil war for at least the last hundred years plus

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Since it looks like the GOP is going to loose at the next election, a civil war is one of the few options left

[-] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

You know, either they really want to start another war, or this is just a damn show for this crazy ass election cycle that’s taking place. Probably both. They want to be able to tell their constituents “we’re doing everything we can to save this country, and we’re telling the Feds to F off while we do it. And their base just eats it up like taco night.

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