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Huh? You.just want em to send Joe bob over for a chit chat? He'll unwind this whole bomb thingie-whatever
Yep, that's exactly what I want them to do. Unarmed.
Carry that thought. Then what?
Bomber blows up the neighborhood and Joe bob did fuck all.
To be clear, I'm not making light of swatting, and not accepting the culture of modern cops to go all tactical to every little thing. Injustices are happening, people are getting hurt.
I personally want to live in a country where a bomb threat is treated with maximum seriousness.
Are you suggesting that unarmed negotiators don't have an amazing success rate?
They are public servants who volunteer to do a dangerous job. Considering the way they treat innocent people now, yeah I'd much rather hire competent people who are willing to do the job properly.
I'd love to see a source on that. I've never heard negotiators are particularly effective.
"Amazing success rate" sounds like a 75% + de-escalation rate with the offender in custody and the bomb undetonated.
Nope. I don't have numbers. But I have seen competent, compassionate people talk desperate people out of some dire situations without harm to anyone. We should always start there. Every single time.
Cops on the other hand must be leashed.
I spoke to the tactical-happy nature of cops, and how that's a serious issue. I pretty specifically constrained my area of discussion to bomb threats. I acknowledge that for other issues of less terroristic nature, a negotiator is great. (Wellness checks, domestic issues, substance issues, etc)
Thanks for clarifying the anecdotal source though.
Crazy to see you get down voted for this.
Not taking the threat seriously is exactly how Uvalde started.
"popular" sentiment is FULLY ACAB, dearm, negotiate, community activist.
Life is not black and white. Sometimes a strong response is needed. I'm real fucking thankful police exist. Despite their massive failings.
On the other hand there are many many many calls that don't need an armed response, and a community negotiator is a better choice.
Ultimately policing in north America needs massive restructuring. Unnecessary violence and injustice are happening everyday, especially to minorities.
But the response to bomb threats is NOT the top of the list of changes.
By that logic, why not send the Marines?
Huh? The military isn't deployed domestically.
Do you mean the national guard? They don't train on residential bomb threats do they?
I want the most local, most able team to respond ASAP, to resolve the threat. Properly trained police are that group.
Acknowledged that many police are not properly trained.
SWAT doesn't seem all that well trained either if they can be used as weapons by angsty teens.