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ngl russia is not making it easy to give critical support lol

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[-] wrecker_vs_dracula@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

Didn't think I'd see the Moscow Times posted here.

[-] an_engel_on_earth@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

hey at least its not the kyiv post

[-] voight@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

people have been posting OSINT accounts for like two years

[-] voight@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I say bring it on. I know everyone is ready to forget that they took Oryx seriously and said stuff like smuglord "Nobody can deny Western weapons are very effective against Russian equipment."

I look forward to the usual "look I want free healthcare as much as the next guy and want to have a real government instead of a CIA GANGSTER POLICE STATE that bombs civilians for no reason but the alternative is just as bad, and in addition, these savages are nothing like us,,," crap that's been used against Syria and Libya and almost Ethiopia recently! They were revving it up! People are sort of keeping China in this vague category of "they are alright, critical support, but not getting my hopes up in case the all powerful warlords of my country need to try to disintegrate them with bombs & I need to remain neutral"

So now we just have to pivot back to the normal "I don't understand why all these anti-war leftists support Saddam Hussein and want to hug and kiss him? It's just making things harder for us Real Activists." refrain that keeps people from even approaching the discussion of what a semi-peripheral country is

[-] wrecker_vs_dracula@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

I failed to understand most of it, but I think this is a brilliant post. I've read it maybe four times now, and its beauty and mystery deepen with every pass.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

What I mean in that screed is

1️⃣ people remained "neutral" but kept supporting the western narrative throughout the past 2 years

2️⃣ people don't have an actual geopolitical analysis, they have the libertarian "muh tax dollar spending" antiwar argument which is completely anemic. i would prefer ancient bandung maoist takes

3️⃣ the accusation of marcyism against people who do actual geopolitical analysis has been making a comeback, it's a great way to learn nothing from all this

what I recommend instead is everyone read abt that & also how western NGOs used things as innocuous as techno to lay the groundwork of the anti ethnic russian movement. look at how the far-right grows in poland etc

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

ancient bandung maoist takes

lmao i’m gonna steal this phrase

[-] voight@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks I think you're joking. Hopefully. I say bring it on bc they get to read these posts

[-] wrecker_vs_dracula@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Sincerity is hard to express on an anonymous web forum. This is the kind of posting that makes hexbear a special place. I like your post.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Yea they have the scoop here it is nice. People mostly don't tolerate imperialist takes here. I just think it's hard for everyone to both learn regional history + politics of Ukraine, and read a bunch of stuff about the development of the global south so they end up accepting a lot of premises which they shouldn't.

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