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The “best” part about the “Hitler hypnotized us” narrative promoted by the krauts in their bloviating, soporific lectures is how it presents a completely counterfactual history devoid of the violent opposition to and clashes with fascists that characterized the Weimar Republic, all in order to pretend grandpappy didn’t deserve to be blown to a million pieces because everyone supported the Nazis and nobody knew right from wrong and morality wasn’t invented until 1945. Once upon a time I thought maybe there was some element of sincerity in German repentance culture, but no - it’s all self-serving, self-absorbed, self-flattering, self-interested, self- this and that; self-centered hagiographic self-praise that treats their unspeakable crimes as elite status cards to trot out.

These fucking krauts just can’t shut the fuck up about how they have some specialized knowledge of fascism because they’re krauts. Were you there? Were you around during the Nazi era? No? Then I fail to see how you know anything more or have any more expertise on the matter than Joe Pissmonger from Montana. Maybe if you picked up a fucking book sometime instead of insisting that being a kraut gives you special privilege to speak with no prior investigation.

But apparently Teutonic blood gives you divine insight into how fascism works. Looks like they haven’t moved past their Nazi genetic woo after all.

“I’m a German and I’m here to teach you how to avoid fascism by supporting the status quo” how about you deal with your own rapidly Nazifying shithole American province before lecturing others.

Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself off the premises.

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[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I recently had a discussion with someone who kept insisting that the reason immigrants are discriminated against is because the petit bougie wants to discriminate against poor people and they use migrant status as an indicator and therefore the discrimination migrants face is the same as the one people with a "poor socio-economic background" face. They kept accusing me of idpol when I told them that I know this to be false from experience, because I tried to help some immigrants find a flat, that this isn't true. I kept telling them I have turkish family members and they face open profiling by the police. I couldn't get through to them that anti-racism is not idpol. It was maddening, they kept insisting that someone named "kevin" and someone named "ali" were equally likely to face equal amounts of discrimination.

That's the state of our anti-fa, you have to fight them to support anti-racism, because they want to "win back" the AfD vote in east germany. Like they literally told me that the only way to mobilize the majority is to get to their problems first and that I should wait until after so it wouldn't alienate the white germans, that I should be more mindful of the "precariat" and kept accusing me of being like the grey wolves with my "idpol" even when I told them that was a really hurtful comparison for personal reasons. I should have went with my gut instinct and told them to fuck off before it went that far. Very discouraging interactions on feddit.de as well.

Is it ok for me to DM you? I have some questions pertaining to orgs in Germany and, if that's ok seperately, about gendered language, which I'm not sure would fall under OPSEC.

[-] MechanizedPossum@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah, i feel that. I mean, i lack the experience from a PoC standpoint because i'm painfully alman, but i notice mysogyny and transphobia in leftist circles a lot, although that's not universally the case. When i talk to younger comrades, they are pretty damn good on the intersectionality thing from my personal experience, but older white cis dudes are often slow on the uptake when it comes to these things.

Feel free to DM me, but i likely won't be much help when it comes to organizing due to opsec reasons, all the orgs i have contact with are local and i don't want to disclose where i live. Still glad to help out with general info.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Will do so when I can think a bit more clearly, but this community literally just opened up on feddit.de and its so emblematic of what we just talked about: https://feddit.de/c/antifayoutube .

[-] MechanizedPossum@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

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Keine Tankies oder Glorifizierung von „sozialistischen“ Diktaturen.

All the mistakes of Weimar era SPD antifascism. The first time as tragedy, the second time as LARP.

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