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It's not just parenting. There are crap parents worldwide, yet this only regularly happens in one place.
E: downvote all you want. Remove my comment if you want. You know it to be true. This is a US thing. Stop worshiping your guns.
And if you are to have them, keep them in a safe, inaccessible to children, when not in use. The fact that this is a controversial statement to Americans is insane.
You can't just handwave away gun problems as "oh it's the parent's fault, nothing can be done"
I talk about how much America loves guns and it's military and I get downvoted all the time. And I say that as a left-leaning armed American.
Sorry that facts hurt people's feelings. We literally had school shootings involving kindergartners a decade ago and nothing has changed. Nothing.
if you arent personally going into people's houses and taking their weapons away from them, then preventing them from buying more weapons, then you cant expect anything to actually change.
It's not guns, it never was done. It's lack of good education, farming it out like it's just some subscription thing. People aren't learning practical information in schools. We don't teach kids how to think, or how to deal with anger in their mind. And they get up and they grow up to be these idiot full grown adults who don't know how to think past them not liking a person because of skin color, they go with their first wins because they're idiots, they get a hold of guns because only idiots need guns. And then they do something stupid. Thinking it's just guns is fucking stupid. Guns don't hurt people people do blah blah blah, it's true people suck now. They're dumb they don't read and they should shoot themselves in the head next time
It's guns.
People from other countries aren't just intrinsically superior to Americans. We haven't all trained our kids to be paragons of virtue. It's that any American can trivially get a gun.
It's that simple. It's guns.
No it doesn't. Lol.
Among the world's economically developed democracies, it absolutely only happens in one nation. This is not up for debate; it's an objective fact.
How we choose to address this fact is up to us, but being in denial about it is not a sane option.
Because they think trolling is more entertaining
Yes it does. People under 18 getting hold of firearms and behaving like idiots with them is something that gets reported on frequently in the US and pretty much the US alone.
But sure, name all these other places where this happens on a regular basis.
E: lmao. Straigh up lies in the retort. Asia and Africa don't have gun problems. Even the most violent place in Africa has a gun violence rate of barely over half of the US's. Fair enough on central America.
Mexico? Except guess where Mexico gets most of their illegal firearms from....
Basically everywhere that isn't Canada, Europe, China or Australia.
That's absolutely not true. Data shows the only countries with higher gun deaths per capita than the US are all central and parts of South America. E.g., India's per capita gun death rate is 0.56 vs 4.12 in the US.
You literally made that up. It's the US and a few unstable countries in South America.
South Africa, one of the highest homicide rate countries in the world, with a murder rate 6.5x higher than the US, has half the gun homicide rate of the US.
India has has 1 gun homicide per 100k. The US has 11 per 100k.
But yeah. Keep telling us how everywhere outside of Europe and Australia is like this. It's BS.
Why are only English-speaking countries relevant?
But fine, Sudan. South Sudan. South Africa. Liberia. Sierra Leone. Ghana. Nigeria. Jamaica.
Lmao how America-brained do you have to be to say that thinking 13 year olds having guns is a bad thing is "pearl clutching"
No. 13 year olds should not have guns.
And I'm from Asia you nitwit. I speak a couple of Asian languages, as well as a couple of European ones, such as the one I'm speaking now.
Asia does not have a gun problem. Africa does not have a gun problem. You made that up and tbh it just sounds like racist dog whistle - "those uncivilised darkies and slit-eyes are violent savages! Their children have machine guns! No I don't have any proof, don't ask!"
South America yeah, particularly Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia. And so does the US. Forgive me for having higher expectations of the highest GDP country in the world than I do of fucking Venezuela.
Children should not have tools designed expressly for quick and easy murder. If you think otherwise, cool. Have a good think about it next time you're on the bus and a child shoots you when you do something to mildly inconvenience him.
I didn't.
And the facts I gave you spoke for themselves. Your argument practically mocks itself.
Come on. Where's your evidence of Asia and Africa having gun problems? Of kids with machine guns?
Gotta give you credit, it was very clever of you to link to an article without any real stats, but which makes it sound really rife.
It was a good try, but no.
United States: 11 gun deaths per 100k.
South Africa: 6 gun deaths per 100k.
South Africa is the most violent place in Africa by far, and isn't representative of Africa at all, and still has a gun homicide rate that's roughly half of the US.
Why are you putting words in my mouth?
You posted an article with no real stats, and you cherrypicked one of the most violent countries on the planet.
I provided real stats to compare them and still the US's rate was almost twice as high!
I don't think you understand what the "ok boomer" meme is.
Never said it wasn't rife. I said you cherrypicking possibly the most violent country out of all Africa and Asia, but making sure to pick an article where it didn't actually tell you the gun homicide rate (because it's much lower than the US's), was a laughable move.
It is rife. It's just over half the US's gun homicide rate, which is huge.
What part of this aren't you getting? Is there something you'd like explained to you? Would it help if I tried to use fewer, shorter words?
https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier
I can't believe France's gun homicide rate doesn't even include all the shootings in WW1 😡😡😡
These stats are unamerican commie propaganda 😡😡😡
Nice deflection. Completely ignoring the comment.
And no thanks, you don't seem particularly interesting. Just a run-of-the-mill US conservative. They're ten a penny.
Talks usual conservative talking points
Casually uses racist dog whistle against Asians and Africans
Has extensive post history in a sub called "conservative"
"Nice try calling me conservative" 🤡
And again dodging the actual content of my reply. Interesting.
Blaming us for your failures. 👍
Self-reflection is a good thing to practice, especially when so many point out something that you outright deny.
Try it!
I mean, you're giving us the standard American Exceptionalist rigamarole. If conservative doesn't describe you, maybe reflect on the kinds of things that you're saying that would convince people otherwise.
Oh look, a sea lion, I usually have to go to fisherman's wharf to see these!
We're counting state violence now? Are you sure you want to include that statistic in defense of America? Our military has a 7-figure body count so far for the 21st century...
Really only South America (actually mostly central America and Brazil) and South Africa, Mali and Somalia fit into that stereotype. The rest of Africa and all of Asia (except Thailand, which is still significantly lower than the US) have very low rates of gun violence.
We're the neighbors. Yes it does.
Wait, which neighbor?
The lol makes it factual