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Nikki Haley Flails When Confronted by Her Own Secession Comments
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Fucking let them secede.
I really don't want to see the harm that will cause millions of people. Not everyone in Texas is the same.
As a trapped Texan, thank you for remembering the good people. It's hard even for myself to shake the "fuck em, let them find out" attitude. Honestly the morbid part of me really wants to see the day-one collapse, much as it would hurt.
But then again we all know for a fact that the Cons will find/fabricate a new bogeyman to blame for their very own actions.
Hypothetical, obviously, but how would you feel if we let Texas secede but offered relocation assistance for folks that want to flee the state?
I think that would be the least the U.S. could do for its (former?) citizens. Or at the least allow for dual citizenship. But secession is definitely not going to happen so I'm not worried :)
Hypothetically though, yeah it would be a huge relief and I'd emigrate without a second thought.
Yeah, it seems very unlikely at this point. I was just interested in your perspective.
Hang in there, hope it ends up getting a bit more sane over the next few years.
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I'm not actually worried that it would happen, and I agree with all your points; fear-mongering is their bread and butter. But thanks for taking the effort to reassure a stranger!
In a nearby parallel universe I'm simultaneously packing my bags and choking on my laughter from my front-row seat 🤣
I didn’t mean just Texas either.
And they are causing harm to entire states that didn’t vote Republican or vote for anyone who appointed these Supreme Court justices. Their reps are blocking bills in the legislature. Fuck them.
Texas has more people who voted against Republicans than all but 3 states: California, Florida, New York. So all those people you are telling to go starve?
Cut Texas out and inflation again goes up. Beef, Grain, Corn... More people will blame the president for it, and then we will get more Republican voters. Issue continues but the people in Texas no longer have social security, Medicare, Medicaid and the U.S. Navy/Army stepped in to secure the oil fields. Exports/imports likely stopped as punishment and the oil companies will sell to 49 states instead of 1. So the people struggle to get gas. Struggle to get to work.. and without food imported from the rest of the states, they will have food shortages outside of beef flour and corn. Electricity will fail once the people can't get to work, so the Internet is no longer useful.. The United Nations will condemn the actions of the U.S. and strain will be put further on our ties, likely further impacting our imports/exports and causing higher inflation. Texas will need help and where would they get it? They won't accept help from China, but guess who has oil and would want to help them? Russia. The U.S. would be Texas's enemy at that point... So Russia doesn't look half bad to keep the lights on and be able to get to work and pay the bills. Then the U.S. would have to pressure Russia into not helping them... Aka U.S. eventually having to go to war against Texas and forcing them into statehood to ensure no other country has access to the land within the U.S. where missiles can reach everywhere without needing to cross a massive ocean.
Not just starve, remember that when secession started in Texas they started murdering people who were against secession. They'll absolutely do it again.
I could see Mexico declaring war on Texas.
You do recognize that secession won’t be a simple process where they can just leave and we keep going about our business as usual, right?
Texas has a huge effect on the national economy. A ton of commerce, energy production,manufacturing, and transport all goes through the Houston ship channel, Mexican points of entry, and across the state through I-10 and I-35.
Secession would mean almost immediate war between the US and Texas, which would cause not only significant loss of life but instability and inflation to a large number of both sides’ civilian population.
The “let them go” arguement is short sighted and unrealistic. It’s just not going to happen.
I don't think it would be much of a war with the US having complete air superiority. Couldn't we just drop leaflets telling people to stand clear and obliterate their grid and wait until it gets really hot or really cold while interdicting any commerce other than food and medicine. Some of those bigger facilities need hardware that isn't easy to come by. They would probably still be in the dark 90 days after they sued for peace.