/c/café daily chat thread for 24 June 2023 (self.cafe)

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Why do squirrels swim on their backs?

To keep their nuts dry!

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[-] dcx 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

After reading the Lemmy guide more carefully, I think we have way more users than I thought yesterday:

I think the 1.62k users are locally registered users, not federated users! This means we're actually growing steadily by about 20-30 local registrations a day. (Yesterday we were at 1.6k, day before at 1.57k, etc.)
The 67 users/week is the number of users who have posted or commented within the last week. There are way more users registered, but they're lurking.
This lines up with r/malaysia! Over there we have 360k subscribers and 6.4m views per month, but popular posts generally get 1k upvotes. So a huge proportion of the sub lurks and never even upvotes.
This gives me hope that we can build this into something that will survive the long haul. We've built a nice community together on r/my and it'd suck to lose it if reddit declined.
Hello lurkers! :)

Oh, tagging @Naomikho@monyet.cc and @Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc since we were talking about this yesterday.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 4 points 2 years ago

Interesting. This might be due to each post over at r/my have automod linked to this server, and there's no news over there. I have a feeling once monday is here we will see a stagnant growth of new user and the active user might drop a bit lower than yesterday, as everything went back to normal. Not helping the retention is Lemmy is such a pita to use sometimes, and right now we're basically duplicate of r/my, r/msians, r/mhp, and r/mpf combined, so it's hard to retaining active user for longer than 2 days, since they have larger audience back there.

So is there any direction you want this server to take? As far as i'm concern i'm in for a long haul. Feels like this could be so much more than the direction Reddit is taking.

[-] dcx 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know what you mean on the former point. I am concerned about retention too. But I'd say we have achieved a minimum bar of success at this point! If there is a sudden scattering from reddit, we have proven that our community is absolutely capable of setting up shop here. Posters, readers, regulars, everyone.

So we have built the boat! Before reddit there were lots of cosy forums across the internet. In the worst case, we can be one of them. We won't lose the group we've created together.

Re: Direction: I don't have one clear answer yet, but here is my thinking so far:

There is very strong evidence that Malaysians want a national forum all to themselves – lowyat.net.
I have long felt r/my has limits which prevent it from fully serving in this role. Malaysia has such diverse languages, cultures, religions, activities, everything. It's hard to fit this into a single subreddit (e.g. we can't have Chinese discussion)
But while lowyat.net is very impressive, it's run on a structure / codebase / ideas which are 20 years old (phpbb). The community is shaped and limited by this fact, e.g. they can't have deeply threaded discussions.
Perhaps this is an opportunity to create a thing which serves a similar role to lowyat, but is much more thoughtful about its impact and role in the Malaysian online ecosystem?
The r/my team seems to have figured out how to create a warm and cosy community, that also serves as a force for good.
- Like mediating racism and controversy instead of steering into it, and signal-boosting stuff that benefits the IRL Malaysian community.
- E.g. if you do a quick Fermi estimate via our pageview counts, I suspect @a_HerculePoirot_fan@monyet.cc may literally be the most impactful teacher in Malaysia right now, via her SPM support. Consider the effect of slightly better career and university decisions across each student's entire lifespan. (And similarly, u/snel may be the most impactful counselor)

Sorry for the wall of text! This was a good exercise to get some thinking on paper. What do you think as well?

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