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submitted 9 months ago by JoMomma@lemm.ee to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

Who else would try to convince others that Cheaters never succeed in profiting?

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[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma#Zero-determinant_strategies

Actually, mathematically speaking, in the long run they tend to eventually fail.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I don’t think that PD (or any of its variants) is a good proxy for cheating, because cheating involves deception or rule breaking, while “defect” is just a legal move.

A better proxy might be something like nuptial gifts in some spider species. So in some species, the male will present a female with whom he wishes to mate a nuptial gift - an insect wrapped in webbing. But the “cheat” move is when either the insect has already been sucked dry or when it’s snatched back too quickly for the female to feed.

We can estimate the degree to which cheaters prosper by looking at how common these and similar behaviors are in their respective populations - let evolution do the calculations. Animal behavior is replete with deceptive and manipulative communication, and because so much of it is genetically determined we can be reasonably confident that we have an objective metric.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It depends on if they had to lie or not. Eventually you will have to lie in order to cover the original lie until you it can't keep all of the lies straight. If you cheated your way through college, then you can probably get away with it unless you go into a skilled profession like a doctor. If you're just getting an MBA or something, then it's not a big deal since business/ office work is not skilled anyway.

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