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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 86 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Skyrim is 13 years old and has many more players. It says "Starfield was not a return to form for Bethesda."

[-] oo1@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

Is it something to do with modding-community?

If that generates a load of free cool stuff people may play more for longer.

The main IP rights owner probably doesn't really want this, they want to develop and sell a new game or expansion.

[-] 520@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The main IP rights holder for Star field is the same as that of Skyrim (aka: Bethesda)

[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago

Nah, it's just Todd Howard. His priorities are weird as hell when it comes to games.

Like, dialog and story is not prioritized.

While map size is highly prioritized.

It's a bit backwards when the games in question are supposed to be RPGs.

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

16 times the details

4 times the size

Fallout 70 dicks

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Todd is the reason Bethesda games have been steadily getting worse since Morrowind, as a game designer he's largely a fraud riding on the coattails of much better designers.

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

The IP holder at this point is Microsoft, so who knows. Microsoft has bought up a lot of big gaming outfits recently, so this is kind of new territory.

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

To some degree, yes. Very few people are playing Skyrim in it's vanilla format, these days. The same is likely true of Fallout 4.

I enjoyed Starfield but it's definitely missing something Skyrim had which made me continue playing after I completed the MSQ.

I've put close to 500 hours into vanilla Cyberpunk but only around 80 into Starfield. My classic Skyrim, which I did play mostly vanilla, was roughly 250 hours. Where special edition is around 1500 hours purely due to mods.

But I already know I'm not chomping at the bit to mod Starfield like I was other games.

[-] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm waiting on more world shit mods to play it again, recently saw a house building mod on any planet and have my hopes up more will come. Granted Bethesda might actually want this engagement so they can release a definitive edition with hella mods, to bridge their own technical gaps again lol.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Vanilla Skyrim < Vanilla Starfield

Modded Skyrim >>> Vanilla Starfield

Simple as. I went back and replayed Vanilla Skyrim this year, and let me be the first to tell you that Starfield is legitimately a better game when it comes to roleplaying, choices, and quest design. Skyrim has a far more interactive and immersive world design, but to me that falls flat when the game is so fucking boring to interact with (hot take, I know).

Mods fix all of those problems with Skyrim, and that's what people are playing now.

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