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This is a ski shop that posted a sign saying they won't do business with Jews, due to a Jewish person stealing a sled.
Replace 'Jew' with any other ethnic group here and it's clearly not okay, but I'm sure other commenters will make an exception.
Basic reading comprehension mate. The sign is wrong regardless of whether a Jewish customer stole anything. It isn't a point worth fighting over.
They don't want to sell to Jews.
Because of a series of “very annoying incidents” — including the theft of a sled.
“our Jewish brothers”
If you can't infer this just from reading, then yes you lack basic reading comprehension, regardless if the person did it or not.
Man, if only you knew what irony was.
That would require them to do self reflection
This is sovcit reading comprehension on display lol
Based on your other comments, the point you are making is that it isn't explicitly stated, correct?
But then why are they refusing to do business specifically with Jews after the thefts?
And how is refusing business to a specific group not discriminatory?
Which makes the shop owners even more antisemitic. Someone steals something and antisemitic shop owners immediately blame all Jews. Yikes.
Where did the other commenter say it's not an antisemitic incident? I believe they want to say it's nothing to do with a sled, just pure antisemitism
It's mentioned in the article?
Ok, let's break this down, because you're being willfully obtuse here:
This is a rental shop, in the context of this business, theft means that someone rented a sled and didn't bring it back. A rental shop knows exactly who they rented something to, so it's likely they knew it was an Israeli citizen/Jew. So we can at least be sure that the shop is making the accusation that a Jew stole a sled, I don't know why you get so hung up on that.
Now, is it racist to put up a sign that bars a whole group of people based on a few incidents? Yes, obviously, and nobody here is denying that.
Holy shit, you should just clarify your point. You are getting massive down votes because you are just being terse. Here, I will help you:
The article doesn't say anywhere that Jews stole anything. It says there were incidents of theft, but nowhere does it mention that the perpetrators were Jewish. The owner of the shop put a sign discriminating against Jewish people regardless, because they are racist fucks.
In another article. https://www.hna.de/welt/schweiz-bergstation-aushang-entsetzen-juden-ski-schlitten-vorwuerfe-details-92828049.html
I think it’s just not especially clear to people that you’re pointing out that there’s a reason the ski resort is implying, but skating around accusing a Jew of theft. For some reason people are interpreting it as pedantry instead of holding the ski resort accountable. They should be explicit about what exactly has happened so that people can see how flimsy it is instead of talking nebulously about “incidents”
Don't bother, his point was very clear from the start but he isn't here to argue in good faith, he's here to bait people with ridiculous questions and then in turn call them anti-semites for answering them. He's a troll, plain and simple.
The world has gone topsy turvy. It is anti-Semitic to ban Jews from renting your equipment, regardless of the reason (maybe if it’s made out of pork). It is not anti-Semitic to a) read the ski shop’s implication and follow it; b) think Israel should stop bombing Gaza. The other person is definitely arguing in bad faith now, but it’s a valid point to say that if the ski resort wants to make an accusation it should be specific.
This is not a response just to you, it’s just that I feel like Jews are getting politicized because of Israel, and it feels so dangerous.