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[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'd say that a vacant home - any place (lots of them) where the homeless are dying in the streets of hypothermia - is owned by a garbage human.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

To play devil's advocate, why not force churches to be shelters, rather than privately owned homes? Most places have dozens and dozens of churches with more than enough room for every homeless person in that community.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I don't really think churches should be obligated to fix a problem that the government created and can fix. Religion sucks but they still have a right to not be drafted without compensation.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

If they paid taxes, maybe, but imo they are being compensated already for something they aren’t even doing.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I don't know why this tax thing is such a big deal for people. Sure the RCC, the Mormons, and some of the prosperity preacher have money but the vast majority of religious institutions can't keep the lights on. Which is why they have to do partnerships to do basic stuff like insurance.

I am much more pissed off at corporations having an entire dedicated staff just to get tax breaks and credits than I am at some congregation of 15 old people not paying taxes. Hell one of the churches I was at before I deconverted had an annual budget of 9k. Would it even be worth going after that little bit?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago

Also an acceptable solution. The devil is reasonable.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why aren't YOU sheltering homeless people? I'm sure you can fit a few of them in.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Who says I own a house?

If I did, I would indeed feel obligated to help people out if I can. Heck, even allowing tents in my yard would probably help.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

You don't need to own your home to split it with a homeless. Don't be so careless, share your living space

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

Dude, I'd join them. The actual owner of this place would be displeased to say the least.

If it was someone that came with advance warning and a good backstory, I could maybe arrange it. I've done it before.

But enough about me, I'm weird. Most people are reluctant to do anything like that, and if you had picked on someone else this would be a gotcha. The thing is, it doesn't all have to fall on one person. We could just pay a bit more in taxes and expand out shelters until there's no reason not to use them. Nobody would have to live with a stranger. We'd need more mental health services as well, and in some cases more inpatient beds, because some of the people on the streets have serious issues.

I'm curious what you would have said in response if I just went "I don't want to". Obviously you're not suggesting sharing with the less fortunate is bad, and while you might successfully argue that I'm bad, I'm not sure how painting an internet stranger such a way would help anything.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Go you. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

Not mutually exclusive. If these companies didn't exist, the homes wouldn't be getting built. Someone has to pay for the materials, the labor, inspection, etc.

A hyperbolic dying homeless isn't contributing anything.

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