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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

It was a decade ago when California became the first state in the nation to ban single-use plastic bags, ushering in a wave of anti-plastic legislation from coast to coast.

But in the years after California seemingly kicked its plastic grocery sack habit, material recovery facilities and environmental activists noticed a peculiar trend: Plastic bag waste by weight was increasing to unprecedented levels.

According to a report by the consumer advocacy group CALPIRG, 157,385 tons of plastic bag waste was discarded in California the year the law was passed. By 2022, however, the tonnage of discarded plastic bags had skyrocketed to 231,072 — a 47% jump. Even accounting for an increase in population, the number rose from 4.08 tons per 1,000 people in 2014 to 5.89 tons per 1,000 people in 2022.

The problem, it turns out, was a section of the law that allowed grocery stores and large retailers to provide thicker, heavier-weight plastic bags to customers for the price of a dime.

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[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

Or one just buys them in bulk and brings their own plastic bags to the store. Cheaper than $.10, still legal.

Plastic grocery bags take up so little space and are so versatile for so many things that would otherwise take thicker more expensive trashbag-like material, or paper or cloth that can't handle wet.

Replacing them at the store didn't replace them at the litterbox, at the quick trip to the friend's house to bring some snacks, at the carpet stain cleanup, at the garage project cleanup, at side of the road car repair, for emergency gloves in a pinch, at stopping liquid leaks in your car's trunk because some container broke, at the small bathroom trash can at home, and so many other places where those bags can and do get reused a bunch of times. Paper and cloth bags both leak. Cloth bags waste drinking water to clean. Regular trash bags not only cost more, but like this article mentions, are also thicker plastic resulting in more plastic ending up in a landfill.

Not trying to sound pro-plastic grocery bag, just pointing out that they are infinitely useful for so many small tasks, and the replacements can't hold up to the task, or are worse in several ways. It's difficult to remove something from peoples' processes when there aren't any reasonable substitutes.

Paper probably has the best bet of going back to prevalence since it can be a carbon sink cycle, but it will take time.

[-] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

What? Cloth bags are vastly superior. You wash them every once and a while with all the rest of your clothes. I just bring them back down to my car so I have them wherever I go. That is by far the best option.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Try putting anything with any liquid on it in a cloth bag and report back bud

[-] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

What the fuck liquids are you buying in a store and putting in a bag? There are already several other containers made to hold liquids. Bags are not one of them.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Tell that to Canadians and their weird ass milk solutions.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

I’m sorry you got downvoted by morons.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

It’s okay it happens frequently

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There are permanent plastic bags too...

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