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[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 9 months ago

Socialists are better at capitalism than the capitalists.

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[-] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 9 months ago

I am happy that China is reaching a level where their MoP is highly developed compared to the West. I wish that other AES can have that opportunity as well.

[-] dRLY@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 9 months ago

One of the main things that hurts the other AES nations is that they are much smaller and easier to deeply impact with all the sanctions placed on them by the US. Also China was able to get so many of the greedy US corps that only care about cheap labour for so long to move industrial manufacturing bases there. Which aside from the massive issues with corruption that came along with it, was not wasted in getting a fuck-ton of modern equipment and knowledge to catch-up with western nations fast as fuck. But the corruption is being dealt with dramatically. With China now having so much sway on getting other nations that have really only stuck with the US for fear of money/trade (and being attacked by our military of course). It is much more likely that we see the other AES nations be able to trade with those nations.

If nations like Cuba have been able to make make such amazing advancements (especially medical ones) while under US restrictions. Just imagine what they can do once said restrictions are made moot. I just hope that China and the other nations (AES or not) are able to be united in putting the US in check as the war-hawks and rich that so fear losing what they have stolen become more and more erratic.

[-] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

okay this is both a W and a L tbh

[-] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I see it as unquestionably a W. I have infinite respect for Cuba, the USSR, and other AES countries that have gone different paths than China has since Deng, but as I have come to increasingly see it- the international victory of communism will not come about through examples of austerity and rationing, no matter how understandable the causes may be (and I'm aware the Soviet history is much, much more than that- which it has been wrongly smeared as since)- and China's role in promoting win-win, non-imperialist trade, cooperation, and integration even with the most irreconcilable (to socialism) of states, and finding common ground in doing so as well as in the common cause of anti-imperialism, is something I seriously admire.

Also, it's not China's fault the Europeans are shooting themselves in the foot, repeatedly (though good riddance). From the war and sanctions against Russia and the destruction of Nordstream, to their similar sanctions and attempts to hinder or destroy Chinese industrial development, this is all self-inflicted, and a result of the West's (Europe included) violent refusal to let go of the ghosts of imperial hegemony, monopoly, and (while they'll rarely admit it) racial supremacy.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

True. The main caveat is not in this situation, but when people take advantage of labor theory of value to be successful at business (read exploitation).

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