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this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2024
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I'm quite a bit more doomer about security than that. An iOS user truly concerned about security should sell their iphone, get an old pre-Intel Management Engine laptop or something, install libreboot and linux, and manually encrypt all their emails with GPG. An iOS user only somewhat concerned about security should look into dedicated secure messaging apps made by companies or groups not subject to their own jurisdiction's laws. The casual iOS user who believes Apple marketing should just leave rcs on to make things that tiny bit more complicated for the world's various intelligence services.
That’s the point I was making though, there’s no guarantee that rcs would make things more complicated for the various intelligence services and a distinct (though, like I said, not my expectation) possibility that it would actually make things easier for them even if one of the encryption supporting rcs services isn’t actively collaborating with law enforcement.
It’s like opening a second loading bay door and suggesting it’ll make things more complex for intruders.
Some of the decisions around apples stuff are actually providing more security than just security through obscurity. Consider what we’re talking about: there’s the security of icloud and that’s it. You either have encrypted messages or plain old sms. The system communicates that to the user very clearly. Even if the system communicated the security of rcs communications as clearly as it does with imessage and sms, that’s still another thing for the user to screw up, another service for law enforcement to put the screws to.
At some point being able to say to people in a really clear way that this is secure, and the other thing isn’t is way better than having some weird in between added in.
We’re kinda chasing each other around a tree and missing the forest though, if the last few years are any indication they’ll just gobble up the push notifications and use them to establish probable cause to arrest then apply the rubber hose until you give up the passcode anyway.