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Matty mentions a central tension.
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These are the people that misunderstood punk to be entirely about "fuck you I do what I want" in an entirely individualistic and antisocial way. They imagine punk entirely as an antagonistic aesthetic with none of the community politics attached to it.
This is how they can claim that they are punk for opposing whatever "woke" shit they're upset about lately. And they see it as punk to deliberately upset others. Unfortunately there's a pretty large chunk of punk fans that absorb the music in the same way.
Every punk bar I've been in for the past 10 years has had a rainbow flag somewhere prominently displayed. There's usually vegan iconography too. It's part of the territory and it has been for a while.
More and more I'm starting to understand what was meant by "poser." People who put on a leather jacket and called themselves punk because they like a few Sex Pistols songs but then never interact with punk communities outside of buying things.
Yeah the posers are the people who fundamentally don't understand it's an ideology. Sometimes they're completely oblivious to it. I was for a long time in that scene.
punk is full of famous dummies like Brett Gurewitz, Dexter Holland, Greg Graffin, Milo Aukerman, Gregg Turner, etc.