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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 76 points 9 months ago

Stop tipping and support establishments that pay proper wages instead.

I no longer live in Austin but before I left, a number of my favorite places had banned tipping. Tips were not accepted, prices were higher, and staff were well paid. Guess what? Post pandemic lock down, they had no problems being fully staffed. Shocking, I know.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's still someone's rent and food money you are withholding from them by not tipping. It's a fucked up system, but they wont be compensated by their boss when you stiff them. So not giving them that tip could be the difference between choosing to pay for rent or groceries this week.

Refusing to tip does nothing but harm workers and allowing the owners to continue to profit. The whole system needs to be reworked from the top down. There is no reason that a restaurant can't just pay their workers a fair wage. They could also just automatically give the staff X% of total sales, but then that starts to sound like a co-op, and then people might start to ask themselves what the owner actually does for the restaurant.

[-] MantidSys@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Did you read their comment beyond the first two words?

They explicitly said to stop tipping by deciding to instead go to places that ban tipping, price goods higher, and pay their employees fairly. None of your argument about "you need to tip people who rely on tips" applies to what they said. You jumped to your "haha gotcha" moment a bit prematurely.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 months ago

their use of the conjunction “and” instead of “by” also had me confused at first but yes your interpretation is more accurate given further discussion which you can see following my reply.

BakerBagel’s position is also valid it just looks like there was misunderstanding.

[-] z500@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

They explicitly said to stop tipping by deciding to instead go to places that ban tipping

Is this a big city thing? This is the first time I've ever heard of this.

[-] MantidSys@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

I've never seen it either. I've heard of it though, but only in wealthier areas. Working class people don't have the luxury of deciding to pay extra to alleviate human suffering - it's the same reason walmart consumes all other choices; the average person chooses the cheapest option because they're already scraping by. A more relatable take would be to just opt out of eating at places that demand tips -- I already do that, but only because I can't afford to eat out anyway :)

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